Are there more tanks playing now?

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

This news just in, tanks playing tank stance...shocking.

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Got your point but stance dancing was actually fun and interesting - adding diversity to a role which is quite basic afterall could not be bad, no?
Also some valuable mechanics are gated out of tank stance.

Square even made stance dance easier by making Grit not breaking combos anymore in 3.2.

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Originally Posted by Ultear_Milkovich

Got your point but stance dancing was actually fun and interesting - adding diversity to a role which is quite basic afterall could not be bad, no?
Also some valuable mechanics are gated out of tank stance.

Square even made stance dance easier by making Grit not breaking combos anymore in 3.2.

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Agreed, but I feel like we are more free to stance dance now with the greater health cushion. I'm not sure that's so for WAR since they've lost a decent amount of their self heals, and so they are having to reconsider how they handle their health, and depend more on healers. Granted we also have to watch the aggro like a hawk now since it seems the boosted aggro generation may not offset the dps loss.

That means that each tank will be a little more on edge, and Warriors really will experience the 'thrill of battle' as their HP management just became critical.

Personally I'd rather see Tank stances not having the damage penalty and DPS stances be given a larger boon. But that's just me. That -25% on defiance will always urk me the wrong way.

Even the game knows and is smearing it in my face that I will do less in this stance.

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Originally Posted by Divine_Intervention

Would it be safe to assume that SE has taken these declines in tank dps, it's effect on the overall group dps for dps checks in raids, into consideration when planning the new content?

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Yup, they stated they would adjust existing content as well and made dps checks easier.

I'm curious about this question because of queue times. I logged in this morning for a couple of minutes just to taste the air. Did my queue for both Trial roll and lvl 60 roll and both of them took WAY longer than normal. It was still nothing compared to Dps queues, but I thought it was unusual. By the feeling of these forums, it's not because there are more tanks. So, either the changes they made to DF are gumming up the works a little, or too many people are queuing for the new content which is slowing queues down for the older stuff (could very well be the former, considering I got noob bonus on both runs I did).

As a side note, I don't plan on dropping my tank any time soon, but the dmg penalty is a little annoying. They gave Pld's potency buffs ... only to have us do almost identical dmg to what we were doing before. I'll give it some time to see how this plays out, but, so far, it feels like absolutely nothing changed on Pld. It still feels super gimpy. TP holds out a little longer, but lord knows how long that will last before skill speed puts me right back to where I was before.

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

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Nothing wrong with Tanks playing in Tank stance. The game doesn't exactly encourage it with things like blood weapon, but there's nothing wrong with it. It's just not as "Fun" as stance dancing as much as you want. I don't really know what enmity is like right now but the health cushion wouldn't mean much if you can't keep hate while stance dancing.

But yeah I have no idea whats going on xD. I'll leave it to the people online to get a feel for the situation.

I think you'll see a lot of unhappy tank players, but as to how many of them will stop playing their tank there's no real way to say.

The tank players who want to deal DPS: These players often play Warrior and are probably displeased with the (surprisingly large) nerf to DPS in patch 3.2

The tank players who want to be unkillable: These players probably play Paladin and are not happy that SqEx has continued to make imbalanced decisions about their job (including patch 3.2)

The tank players who want a big sword: These players come from both camps. Some are former Paladin who switched in HW, some came to tanking on DRK and are attached to tank DPS because that was the measure in HW.

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Originally Posted by Cynric

The Tank exodus has begun. (Thankfully I switched to Monk before the patch when I saw the PVP DPS nerf alongside the already reduced damage in PVE. DRK has like zero anything in PVP utility wise compared to PLD/War)

They probably.. Should have done things a liiittle bit different.

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Faster Queues for me~

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Originally Posted by MyrahiRounfa

Faster Queues for me~

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You already had fast queues, you glutton!

I'm planning to shift PLD to my secondary over WHM in light of the changes. Ran a few Roulettes with it today and I've not had any trouble with hate so far.

I'm quite happy with the changes, though the .45/.45 split boggles my mind a bit.