What ever happened to the Roaming primals?

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Originally Posted by KyahAlmasy

Didn't we see Ifrit in Thanalan being fought by a large group of people in the original Benchmark for ARR, but then never heard anything more about it? I'm terrible with keeping up with updates, but has there been any word on this? Or was the concept dropped completely.

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Let me hit the button on the Random Dev Team Phrase Generator. *BOOP* And we have..."Please look forward to it!"

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

I think that intentional false advertising is a pretty wild accusation. The benchmark is made to test your system's performance with various degrees of action. Neither the benchmark or SE have made any promises about roaming primals, it's merely been discussed as a potential gameplay addition.

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Yeah, but for some reason to this playerbase the words "consideration" and "speculation" equate to "promise".

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

Yeah, but for some reason to this playerbase the words "consideration" and "speculation" equate to "promise".

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Which is probably why a lot of dev responses to threads are stuff that they either toss to the dev team for consideration or things that the team can easily implement within a given timeframe. Things like "we'll look into it" or "oh hey that sounds cool" tend to be taken out of context.

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Originally Posted by KyahAlmasy

Didn't we see Ifrit in Thanalan being fought by a large group of people in the original Benchmark for ARR, but then never heard anything more about it? I'm terrible with keeping up with updates, but has there been any word on this? Or was the concept dropped completely.

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There's other things SE dropped and or lied about like the Vita being able to be a side map for your ps4 game. Sadly I cant find a picture anymore :(

http://www.ps4pro.eu/wp-content/uplo..._1-664x335.jpg but you get my point

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Originally Posted by Kurogaea

Final Fantasy 15 has behemoth walking around, so why not 14?

http://i1.cdnds.net/15/12/618x346/ffxv-demo-end3.jpg

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There's already a Behemoth FATE and an easily triggered Behemoth S rank.
And a Behemoth mount if that counts.

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Originally Posted by Kurogaea

There's other things SE dropped and or lied about like the Vita being able to be a side map for your ps4 game. Sadly I cant find a picture anymore :(

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This sound like a read/memory error

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Q: Will we able to utilize the second screen feature with the PlayStation Vita?

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A: For MMOs, it becomes difficult if all of the information is not centralized on one screen. As I don’t see much benefit to this, there are currently no plans to implement it. While this doesn’t mean that we will never support this feature, we don’t want to see usability differ too much by platform, either.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...812-24-2013%29

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

. Neither the benchmark or SE have made any promises about roaming primals.

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f; How will the primal battles such as Ifrit, Moogle, and Garuda be in ARR?
y; Say for Titan, Titan is new, like there are many things, like the ground breaking through, flying, dropping. There are lots using ground gimmicks.
y; And as the contents gets updated, less people will play, so at that time we’ll have Ifrit show up in public field, and like the benchmark it becomes a F.A.T.E. and from there people can use it as great summon (dai-shoukan)


Yoshi said that. So you are wrong. But they found a way to force you into running crap you have been running for two years so why do anything neat when you will just run the same thing every day anyway.

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Originally Posted by Asmodai

Yoshi said that. So you are wrong.

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If you're going to quote something, don't selectively do so to try and prove a point.


"# Q27: How will the primal fights change in ARR?
# A27: They will be basically be the same as the fights in version 1.0. However, we will be making some minor tweaks based on the new battle system and the primals will have a larger role in the main scenario.
f; How will the primal battles such as Ifrit, Moogle, and Garuda be in ARR?
y; umm, basics for those that played previous FFXIV, just imagine the primal battles from then
y; however, this time it involves with the main scenario so the standing position and cut scene is different
y; also the skills they use is matched to the ARR’s battle so it’s different
y; Say for Titan, Titan is new, like there are many things, like the ground breaking through, flying, dropping. There are lots using ground gimmicks.
y; And as the contents gets updated, less people will play, so at that time we’ll have Ifrit show up in public field, and like the benchmark it becomes a F.A.T.E. and from there people can use it as great summon (dai-shoukan)"

It's clearly stated that primal fights in ARR would be relatively the same as their previous incarntations, but with some tweaks so that they would be properly integrated into the story and combat system. The end of his answer is simply a statement of the direction he intended to move with some primals once the player-base began to thin. I still see no broken promises or lies as some seem to be claiming. This response was given years ago and direction can change. Nothing here is "false advertising".

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

If you're going to quote something, don't selectively do so to try and prove a point.

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There is a char limit I was trying to stay within, there was no selective editing needed.

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

t's clearly stated that primal fights in ARR would be relatively the same as their previous incarntations.

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Except the part where he says he's going to do something different with future updates when content is updated.

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

The end of his answer is simply a statement of the direction he intended to move with some primals once the player-base began to thin.

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That's not what it is, that is what you decided to interpret from a translated interview. It's not when the player base gets thin its when less people are playing it because its old content.

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

TI still see no broken promises or lies as some seem to be claiming. This response was given years ago and direction can change. Nothing here is "false advertising".

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He can change the direction of the game, and thats his right. However people invest a lot of time into this game and when you say you are going to do something you should just do it. It may not be "false advertising, broken promises, or a lie, but what he did he actually did was most certainly lazy and unimaginative.

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Originally Posted by Felis

This sound like a read/memory error


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...812-24-2013%29

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Its neither a read or memory error. There was literally a picture SE posted to commercialize the vita using a second screen feature but they used it as a selling point apparently since they didn't plan on putting it in anytime soon anyway. Thanks for posting the link though.