Why do people still single target mobs when there are 3 or more?

DRG has aoe as part of their single target rotation so no real need to do a full aoe spam, a single buffed ring of thorns is worth doing after each heavy thrust then straight back into single target again, dropping phleb to make sure u dont lose BOTD. still i would only do this if there is about 5+ mobs

Sometimes I single target specifically to kill weaker mobs that can be killed quickly and cut down on the damage to the tank. A smaller group can be managed for longer.

Note sometimes, not all the time.

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Originally Posted by MihaelB

I'd be interested if this is actually more efficient or not. AOE attacks by a DPS I'd imagine would outweigh a healer in cleric stance considering the potential need for switch backs/ negative trait removals.

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Yeah I don't think it does. The less mobs there are the less a healers AOE dPS is going to help. Aero III nearly all of SMN's dots need to be put on the mobs early otherwise you're wasting resources.

I don't know much about AST, but adding AOE when there is 8 mobs vs when their are only 4mobs left is a lot less dPS. And healers usually have a way to keep tank alive along with their cool downs so they can dPS early without risk of death.

It's really not that difficult to dPS early on. Infact later on usually means tank might not have cool downs cuz focusing is dPS loss if it's a lot of mobs.

If players are doing the CORRECT AEO you wouldn't have to issues. I ran The Vault with a BRD and a Drg and since bard used His Tp sons and Dragoon positioned correctly for his AEO healer ONLY used dots if he had time but we ran it really quick. The I ran Vault with a Mnk and same BRD and MNK was only single target it took us 40+ min. So it isn't about running out of tp but knowing how to ROTATE the skills appropriately.

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Originally Posted by Deathcharge

If players are doing the CORRECT AEO you wouldn't have to issues. I ran The Vault with a BRD and a Drg and since bard used His Tp songs and Dragoon positioned correctly for his AEO healer ONLY used dots if he had time but we ran it really quick. Then I ran Vault with a Mnk and same BRD and MNK was only single target it took us 40+ min. So it isn't about running out of tp but knowing how to ROTATE the skills appropriately.

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I hate iPhone autocorrect some days.

I usually only AoE on MNK when there's 4+ targets.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

BLM AoE is still more dps than single target on 3 mobs, by quite a bit.

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That's compared to fire 1 only(before 3.0). With fire4 single target is a bit better. ^^

Still aoing 3 mobs is a good way not to waste enochian if you close to a boss and some junk mobs appear ^^.

I gauge it based off pull speed and pack kill time, quantity is a non-factor at 3+. Are the other people putting out enough aoe to kill the pack at or close to my 0 tp run, and is there suffecient time to recover tp before the next full stop. Are there any high threat targets (usually open with ct combo on that one to soften it up for the aoe fest). Is the tank chain pulling even if there is no mnk in group (seriously why is this a thing?).

These are just a few considerations any decent dps has running through their head when deciding to aoe or not. Just as any decent tank will gauge there pull sizes based on resources left ie buffs compaired to expected incoming sustained dmg and ground coverage of aoe attacks.

Personally I use fire IV a lot on high MP mobs even in a group and bosses, and fire II and flares for lower hp multiple mob pulls.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

Once you hit 0 TP from AoE spam, if there are still 7+ mobs, continue to AoE.

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How do you even.. ?