Whats with people hating F2P?

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Originally Posted by Saccharin

F2P is only viable when you employ dirty ways to get money from people like lottery boxes. Sadly FF14 is increasingly putting desirable things on the cash shop.

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Wildstar, Dota 2 and Path of Exile all do F2P in an incredibly fair manner (more fair than some P2P games). It's more than viable, it just isn't "viable" if the company behind it is SE or any other greedy corporation that doesn't care for their consumers.

Lol @ the title. I'm a 4yr Perfect World vet and that game is "F2P", however you gotta spend $1k+ to get base R9 gear. There is legitimate reason for not liking F2P games. F2P games rip you off hard through the method of expensive micro transactions. Eventually it pushes people away from the games. STO is a better example than PWI.

Fancy looking things on the shop are fine. What is not fine are advantages. Like other f2p games have subs, that give you stuff like more inv space, more marketplace slots to sell, no restrictions on this and that and makes you almost cry inside.
I've always played F2P mmos before i found FF. First time paying for a monthly fee game, and i'm damn satisfied with this. So no thanks.

Free 2 play games have bad communities.

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Originally Posted by Colorful

Wildstar, Dota 2 and Path of Exile all do F2P in an incredibly fair manner (more fair than some P2P games). It's more than viable, it just isn't "viable" if the company behind it is SE or any other greedy corporation that doesn't care for their consumers.

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Wildstar is a wait and see. When the game launched they had 18 months of content and because they had a break and decided to fix things they probably have over half of that content left so when they run out of prepaired content then we;ll see how F2P really goes.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

Free 2 play games have bad communities.

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I've found FF14 dungeon finder quite toxic from the 2.x launch. I think games in general just have bad communities because they were never moderated properly. F2P games have virtually no moderation.

I have to give credit to SE, any time I've put in a ticket about other player's behaviour it's been answered in minutes.

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Originally Posted by PawsTheKitti123

Like, they say theyd quit if it was.
Its a waste but I do it because I like the game.

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You, kind of, contradicted yourself. If you're enjoying the game, then the subscription isn't a waste.

When TERA went f2p, they made so dyes only lasted one hour (so you had to buy permanent dye from the shop) and removed armor glamour (which forced you to buy costumes from cash shop)

So no thank you.

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Originally Posted by PawsTheKitti123

Please read the description.

I stick around because I like the game.

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If you like the game, then why does it feel like a waste? I think that is what people are confused about.

I really enjoy this game. Therefore, I don't think the my sub is a waste. I would not want it to go F2P for the plethora of reasons everyone else gave.

F2P means less content, content comes out much slower, Pay 2 win, many many micro transactions. The quality of this game would be quite terrible I would say SE is doing good so far (i'm probably going to get burned for saying that) but still i'm enjoying myself and I pay my $15 a month and I have no complaints. Everyday I run stuff with my FC and we have a blast in the Diadem and getting Thordan down this content patch that came out has breathed some life back into this game for me.

I think it's also fair to note FFXI has been out like what...13ish years? And it still hasn't gone f2p.
I think that kinda shows S.E's stance on taking an mmo that brings them a lot a money to a f2p model.