If you use Heavy Thrust on your Dragoon, you are bad.

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Originally Posted by Puwarh

Imagine SMN doing this
http://f.ptcdn.info/347/009/000/1378...ZGUSHERE-o.jpg

Should done a nice manly damage to, right? I wanna try this once in a while :D

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Wasn't there a rotation where you used Ruin 2 because it's instant cast and so you could stand in melee range and auto attack book smack the mobs?

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Originally Posted by SpiritMuse

Wasn't there a rotation where you used Ruin 2 because it's instant cast and so you could stand in melee range and auto attack book smack the mobs?

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Smns for some reason have an absurdly high Strength compared to other casters so their Auto Attacks do about twice the dmg. If a Smn can figure out how to maintain his mp while using Ruin II more often then they will get a slight dps increase by Auto Attacking and Ruin IIing as much as possible. You will still get AAs while using Ruin 1, but not as much.

this thread made my day.

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Originally Posted by Ossom

Smns for some reason have an absurdly high Strength compared to other casters so their Auto Attacks do about twice the dmg. If a Smn can figure out how to maintain his mp while using Ruin II more often then they will get a slight dps increase by Auto Attacking and Ruin IIing as much as possible. You will still get AAs while using Ruin 1, but not as much.

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It's about a 5% dps increase, which is roughly as much of a difference as between using pots and not using them. Every smn in any sort of high level content should always stand in melee range, especially since 3.0 where mp drain is much less of an issue as it was before.