5 Million Accounts - Japan Expo

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

A more interesting point is that gamers don't switch games, they abandon them. A while ago, we had a bunch of threads about "trying to get WoW players" by making the game have less story. Turns out that wouldn't get WoW players at all. People either like "that game" or they don't, and they don't switch MMO's like they would switch brands of soft drinks.

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Almost everyone I've met in every MMO I've played has played at least 1 other and quite often several MMOs. Most common among them WoW, of course. And I constantly meet people in other games who started with WoW, City of Heroes, Everquest, or Guild Wars 1. In about that order of frequency (The City of Heroes players show up so much despite it being a smaller game because the game was killed by its parent company right while it was going strong).

I really disagree on this idea that gamers don't switch games. I've very rarely met anyone who had only played one MMO. Save for WoW during its heyday. But now in WoW, or at least last time I was in there about 4-5 months ago - everyone I encountered had been in some other MMO for a while or concurrently. What I find now is a lot of people cycle through MMOs when patch cycles are long or not going the way they wanted them to.

That said I do agree that very few accounts are bots / sellers. Almost none actually. Hackers on the other hand tend to steal people's accounts, but even this is a very small number. It doesn't take that many to create a very visible problem. One person online at a peak moment going through the list of players and macro spamming everybody and suddenly people will think there is an army of spammers...

More likely is that the hackers had a few hundred accounts, but only use 1 to 2 at a time... and when those get blocked, they can just slip into somebody else's account and go at it again. Its another reason to ALWAYS have a two-step authenticator (what this game calls the One-time password thingy), and a unique password / email combo.

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Originally Posted by Ducky

Slightly incorrect there: FFXIV launched in Korea this month, and Yoshida had already announced the 5 million mark had been crossed back at the beginning of July. New Korean subscribers won't be included until the next count/announcement.

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Yeah, that's my typo since the link i provided says august (should've put 8 not 7 as the month) but i already said in that post that korea accounts are not included. I just included it in case anyone says that korea accounts are counted.

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Originally Posted by Ducky

That 500k figure was fabricated; SE told the author of the article no such thing. I know this because they quite literally told the technology site I write for as much in as many words when we reached out for confirmation of the same, citing Erik's claimed figures. SE quite deliberately (and notoriously) keep this particular number close to their collective chests, and according to their representative this occasion was no different.

From what I can tell, after initially posting incorrect information in his article (having made the same lazy mistake as many others of ignorantly using the March 2014 report to describe 2015 figures) and having to address that, Erik decided in an attempt to save face that he'd just claim SE had confirmed the figures he guessed at from the March report's confirmation of one million combined subscribers for FFXI, FFXIV and DQX, assuming the number of active subscriptions was a figure openly available to anybody who asked.

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Don't suppose you have a published link to corroborate this since that's a serious allegation.

Only because it's strange since the update portion of that article references 2.5 mil registered accounts that seemingly match SE's slide at the end of the eternal bond trailer and yet he didn't correct the 500k number since that lie or mistake as you mentioned would be costly for him.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

With ffxi,ffxiv and dragon quest as of start of this year had less then 1m sub together lmao. By now ffxiv should have a little over 800k active users but that going to go down once WoW release there new pack.

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I hope you are one of the ones that will be leaving..