how to get <lord's clogs> shoes and <yukata> armor?

I remember that SE said 1.0 event items wouldn't be available in 2.x. Then they were, and 1.0 players were outraged.

I personally feel if you didn't participate in the event, you miss out entirely. Nothing in the cash shop; you do the event and get the item, or don't do it and get nothing. As an aside, I have one character from the 2.0 beta, one from just around the time of last year's Hatching Tide (2014) event and a new one. I'm not upset about not having the items I missed on all my characters, even though some would work well for their glamours.

Right now, the only things you can't get from previous events at all are the titles; and some of them are pretty good. I get asked where to get Golemancer all the time...

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Originally Posted by Yshnal

Mid August to September.

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And right after will be the anniversary event.

I honestly prefer it this way, you have an option to either be there or pay a tiny $5 for it later on. You could say that all these small $5 purchases add up, but are you going to buy every single ugly egg hat, or random earring? No, you likely won't. I prefer this over the Blizzard route of adding exclusive things to the cash shop that were never available in game. Buying them for gil would be preferred, but if it's this or exclusive cash shop items, I pick this.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

There is NO excuse to lock all those items behind a cash shop. None. It's bad enough my new character can't get the Lightning event stuff

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Then you should be happy that the Lightning event stuff is not even in the cash shop ^^
SE is not obliged to bring old event items again in the first place.
During 1.0, if you missed an event then you couldn't get the item next year and not from a cash shop. You just missed it.

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Originally Posted by PArcher

I remember that SE said 1.0 event items wouldn't be available in 2.x. Then they were, and 1.0 players were outraged.

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seasonal events =/= 7th umbral one-time events

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Originally Posted by Naunet

Yeah, I got them on this character back in ARR. :/ When I came back after having quit for a bit, I decided to reroll, cause my friend had switched servers and I wanted a fresh start...

... Really annoyed to learn that SE expects me to pay freaking real money for that crap. Even Blizzard, in all their moneygrabbing, doesn't do that. This is a subscription MMO, SE, NOT a f2p game.

[edit] Actually, annoyance doesn't even begin to cover it. This is unacceptable.

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Actually, blizzard does charge for optional items in their cash shop. They even integrated the cash shop into the game back during pandaria so you can buy pets and mounts without even having to tab out.

These items are OPTIONAL and have nothing to do with your fee to access the game servers.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Actually, blizzard does charge for optional items in their cash shop. They even integrated the cash shop into the game back during pandaria so you can buy pets and mounts without even having to tab out.

These items are OPTIONAL and have nothing to do with your fee to access the game servers.

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Oh for... we are not talking about random items. We're talking specifically about holiday items that have previously been available for gil and where a precedent was already set that holiday items from past years would continue to be available for gil.

I really don't get how anyone besides SE could defend this decision. You're literally trying to justify them removing things from the game and charging more real life money for them in a game where you already pay a subscription every month. Why would you want to defend such a thing? It's ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

Oh for... we are not talking about random items. We're talking specifically about holiday items that have previously been available for gil and where a precedent was already set that holiday items from past years would continue to be available for gil.

I really don't get how anyone besides SE could defend this decision. You're literally trying to justify them removing things from the game and charging more real life money for them in a game where you already pay a subscription every month. Why would you want to defend such a thing? It's ridiculous.

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You said blizzard doesn't do this, when they do, had to correct you.

Honestly though, you should be happy SE at least gives you a way to get these things again. And for less than the price of a happy meal most of the time, no less. Holiday event items in WoW are gone forever if you didn't get them when they were originally available.

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

You said blizzard doesn't do this, when they do, had to correct you.

Honestly though, you should be happy SE at least gives you a way to get these things again. And for less than the price of a happy meal most of the time, no less. Holiday event items in WoW are gone forever if you didn't get them when they were originally available.

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No... they are not gone forever. I played WoW long enough to know that. You get chances year after year to obtain everything.

And you didn't correct me. I stated that Blizzard doesn't remove previously accessible items and throw them on a cash shop. You pointed out something completely unrelated. That is not correcting me. That's not understanding the argument being presented.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

Bull. In a F2P game, this would be... not really enjoyable but within the realm of expectation. This is, however, a subscription-based MMO. There is NO excuse to lock all those items behind a cash shop. None. It's bad enough my new character can't get the Lightning event stuff (really, really should be account-bound), but for SE to then laugh and say, "Oh you thought you were playing a sub MMO? Nah, we just want even more of your money!" That's... no. No other sub-based MMO does this with their freaking holiday gear. Even Blizzard, as they continue to expand their cash shop in really unsettling ways, doesn't do this. This is very nearly unsub-immediately levels of horrible.

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Obviously you never seen the Station Cash store in EQ.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

I really don't get how anyone besides SE could defend this decision. You're literally trying to justify them removing things from the game and charging more real life money for them in a game where you already pay a subscription every month. Why would you want to defend such a thing? It's ridiculous.

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Personally I'd rather them simply be unavailable to me if I missed the event. Not even purchasable via gil the next year.
The "me too" thing needs to go. We need more rare event items instead of things that everyone runs around using.