Capped [Class] =/= Capped [Job]

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Glad to see someone had enough sense to make this post. Unfortunately Anonymoose, some people won't be happy until they have to pointlessly grind out another 1,782,150 SP on every single job.

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For some people, that's actually the main focus of the game - grinding either with friends or to prove superiority and skill. They call it the "meat" of the game. I, myself, prefer actual progressive content, story, and lore to repetitive tasks that make a counter go up - but to each their own.


@Konachibi You're totally right. I was thinking, like, since Alchemist turns all of the plants and saps into oils and syrups, he might evolve into a pasta ... something. Idk WHERE I was going with that. I'll change it immediately. (What? Anonymoose? Admit he's wrong when faced with convincing contradictory evidence solidly aimed at a clear topic of contention? WHO DOES THAT?)

@DNO I appreciate your efforts, I promise, lol. Usually by Page 15 of threads like these, the "wobble" of the subject gets to a steady spin and everyone starts arguing about something else. By this time 10 pages form now, we'll be arguing over whether or not Patch Notes break the Immersion of Exploring Recently Added Content by Giving the Casuals Handholding Hints or some bullsh!t like that.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

@Konachibi You're totally right. I was thinking, like, since Alchemist turns all of the plants and saps into oils and syrups, he might evolve into a pasta ... something. Idk WHERE I was going with that. I'll change it immediately. (What? Anonymoose? Admit he's wrong when faced with convincing contradictory evidence solidly aimed at a clear topic of contention? WHO DOES THAT?)

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"What? Alchemy man is evolving!"

*poof*

"Alchemy man evolved into Pasta man!"

Pastaman: "Pastaaaaaaaaaa"

its stupid that we have to go back and do these new "quests" for our already completed classes.

trust square enix to punch thier loyal players in the face with brass knuckles

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Originally Posted by Secret_Reeve

its stupid that we have to go back and do these new "quests" for our already completed classes.

trust square enix to punch thier loyal players in the face with brass knuckles

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You're trolling me on purpose because of that whole "makes me want to beat you until it causes hydrogen fusion" comment, aren't you.

Classes are weapon proficiency.
In FFXI, you could skill up your polearm so your SAM would be invited to bird parties. You weren't required to be a Dragoon. In FFXIV, you will be able to master the abilities of the Axe so you can use abilities of axe proficiency, such as Bloodletter II+, on Pugilist. That doesn't mean you have to be a Warrior.

Therefore, jobs are the true form of classes and require dedication.
Dedication is often shown through work such as grinding, or when we've already done grinding and are f**king sick of it, a series of quests featuring lore about your favorite jobs, how they fit into the world, and the bonuses that come with mastering them.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

You're trolling me on purpose because of that whole "makes me want to beat you until it causes hydrogen fusion" comment, aren't you.

Classes are weapon proficiency.
In FFXI, you could skill up your polearm so your SAM would be invited to bird parties. You weren't required to be a Dragoon. In FFXIV, you will be able to master the abilities of the Axe so you can use abilities of axe proficiency, such as Bloodletter II+, on Pugilist. That doesn't mean you have to be a Warrior.

Therefore, jobs are the true form of classes and require dedication.
Dedication is often shown through work such as grinding, or when we've already done grinding and are f**king sick of it, a series of quests featuring lore about your favorite jobs, how they fit into the world, and the bonuses that come with mastering them.

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Here's a better metaphor for what you're trying to say ;)

Any man can learn karate, but it takes time, loyalty and dedication to become a black belt in karate.

So in FFXIV version it would be:

Any marauder can swing an axe, but it takes time, quests and dedication to become a warrior of the axe.

i dont mean to troll anyone other than SE on this subject, and a few others liek alt tab ect but bleh,

i simply dont see why we have to go out n do yet more quests on classes we've already reached cap on.

i dont mind lore, i dont mind quests, but really......

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Originally Posted by Secret_Reeve

i dont mean to troll anyone other than SE on this subject, and a few others liek alt tab ect but bleh,

i simply dont see why we have to go out n do yet more quests on classes we've already reached cap on.

i dont mind lore, i dont mind quests, but really......

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...because you won't be doing more quests on classes you reached cap on. You'll be unlocking jobs and doing quests to gain skills for those jobs.

Are you actually complaining about having more things to do?

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Originally Posted by Konachibi

Any man can learn karate, but it takes time, loyalty and dedication to become a black belt in karate.

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That's good, too! Thanks for that. Hold on, let me try:

[Adopts Kung-fu voice]
Any man can play the bow. It has only one string. Only through dedication, time, and trials can one learn to play many strings like the barcher...

(Sorry, lol. I'm not going to go out and say I believe wholeheartedly that it's a bowharp, but I love when a maybe gets responded to with "DEFINITELY NO!" on subjection.)

t(^u^t)

Thanks for another completely pointless thread in the FFXIV forums!

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

I would expect you to have to be on the Job while doing those quests. Now, bear in mind the jobs are not meant to be successful in solo play.

I imagine the quest tasks being more about completing certain objectives on the job, rather than a simple fight. If it becomes more like that then the quests will be much more interesting than a simple 'rip through it on your lv50' endeavor.

Examples:

Paladin: Survive for X minutes.
WHM: Keep an ally alive for Y minutes.

Another possibility is having the quest difficulty scale based on the actual level of the player entering.

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I adore this idea. Of course, I'd like them to keep some heavy battles for some of the job missions, but this suggestion just seems so fun and hard to pass up.