Heavensward Leveling... aka Northern Thanalan Leveling

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Originally Posted by Vurtney

Sure there's more players but am i missing something else?

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Yeah, missing it even though you said it yourself. Two reasons:

1) ARR FATEs are MUCH easier to complete than HW FATEs.
2) More people, faster the FATEs get done = more XP.

That said, dungeon spam is far better. Yet the queue can get long for DPS, so FATEing is a good filler.

Good god that sounds dreadful when the xp curve from 55+ is steep as heck. Dungeons it is.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

You can always not FATE grind.. I personally hate leveling like that.

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Ok, so because you personally don't like it no one probably likes it or needs to do it, mright? Useless reply is useless.
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Lets hope SE will adress this when they realise that most fates are being farmed in N thanalan and not in new, wast and beautiful locations.

While I understand the EXP is very low in HS areas, it's no excuse to FATE grind your first lv 60. All the MSQ and Side Quest give great amount of exp. And the Roulette exp, omg I am laughing. Only a matter of time before SE patches N. Than FATEs to cap exp like they did with Traders Leves

*insert Morpheus pic here*
What if I told you that leveling does not equal FATE grinding. You have dungeons, levequests, guildhests, clan hunts and if you leveled your first class right, even quests.
Just do 10 fates for the challenge log and be done with it.

I haven't got past level 54 yet and I am just progressing through the main story so I have only done one of the new dungeons, I do like to do passing FATE's when going along the side quests and main story but the Heavensward FATE's are too long for too little reward.

The question I have here is the new dungeon grinds faster than N-Than FATE's? Considering the really low pop time on the escort quest in N-Than it tends to bridge downtime gaps now so that zone is almost constantly on a FATE and when Gorgichimera or Dark Devices spawn that's a heck load of XP for some few minutes work. I am wondering simply because I plan on getting my WAR and MNK (for my retainers) up to 60 shortly after I finish main story on DRK and would like to do it as efficiently as possible. Another plus of N-Thanalan FATE's is you can level your chocobo!

I find it strange they tried to avoid causing the same problem they had in 2.0 where FATE exp was the best and nobody entered dungeons to level by making the exp from Heavensward FATE's low but it seems have just had the opposite effect by forcing people outside to Northern Thanalan. I had expected things to scale much like they did from 1-50 as before but it seems (Except for the new dungeons as I have no knowledge on that) that EXP rewards have marginally increased in relation to the huge increases in experience to level. In fact I would say they are better off putting EXP onto mobs in the 50 dungeons at this case because atleast people will run them more (Brayflox/WP speed runs!) instead of just sticking in Northern Thanalan then. Finally when you factor in difficulty, new dungeons are likely to be harder and have a lot more newcomers which would slow down the speed at which you can complete compared to the switch off and zerg in easy pre-heavensward FATE's. There needs to be some rebalancing on EXP rewards to create extra incentive for people to spread out across the new zones.

...dungeons start at 51. Leves<dungeons a limited resource needs to give better reward not less. Guildhest is covered in leve. Clan hunt? Lol I'm sorry. I guess you can do that. There is a right way to level? Isn't your entire point there are a lot of options? When they say they fate it's more than likely a second job. More over it's more so to 51 so they can q dungeons. After that dps may fate grind in between qs. Dungeons grind is the efficient way to level in HW if you have access to it once you've been relieved of your quests. Group leves aren't too bad. Not good either though.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

same xp for lower HP pools. Least effort vs reward thingie

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So basically people are ignoring the greater challenge for easier content, not because there is a great disparity in XP gained? Lazy players are lazy players...

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Originally Posted by StrejdaTom

Ok, so because you personally don't like it no one probably likes it or needs to do it, mright? Useless reply is useless.
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Lets hope SE will adress this when they realise that most fates are being farmed in N thanalan and not in new, wast and beautiful locations.

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No one "needs" to be level 60 in two days.

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Originally Posted by AskaRay

No one "needs" to be level 60 in two days.

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Agreed! Game has been out officially for less than one week and people complaining about leveling alts?
Go enjoy the game, people, sheesh!