Six Questions

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

It revealed his lack of comprehension to say it that way at all. WOW is an MMO that fulfills the desires of people who prefer that style of MMO. FF Online provides an entirely different experience, and the group of people who want that particular experience are outnumbered by the people who want the experience provided by WOW. It's as simple as that.

Saying that Final Fantasy Online could "dethrone" WoW is like saying that Cheezits will dethrone the meat food group. It not only sounds entirely unrealistic, but it doesn't make any godsdamned sense.

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FFXIV is becoming a WoW clone now though.

I guess Wada is pulling the strings again.

That's why he hand-picked Yoshi to begin with.

"I want one young go-getter to make this game into WoW as fast as possible! Any volunteers?"

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

It revealed his lack of comprehension to say it that way at all. WOW is an MMO that fulfills the desires of people who prefer that style of MMO. FF Online provides an entirely different experience, and the group of people who want that particular experience are outnumbered by the people who want the experience provided by WOW. It's as simple as that.

Saying that Final Fantasy Online could "dethrone" WoW is like saying that Cheezits will dethrone the meat group. It not only sounds entirely unrealistic, but it doesn't make any godsdamned sense.

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I think one of the other general issues, is that marketing should never run a project in development. The situation here perfectly fits that scenario. They knew MMOs are cash cows from prior experience and wanted the quick way to that cash flow. I'm sure that Tanaka and others in charge of the project did not want to release with the state the game was in. That's part of why I don't entirely fault him here.

i gleaned, that you infer, your post is absurd but less so then others. No thanks.

I find it pretty shortsighted to call anything a [X]Clone. In the world of MMOs, we're all playing Dungeons & Dragons, but we're all playing with radically different DMs who are varying levels of competent in what their friend group finds "Fun."

If WoW has good things to offer the future of MMOs, those traits should live on -- hopefully the WoW we take in will replace the aspects of FFXI that made it a rather masochistic addiction at times.

I doubt we'll ever move too too far out of the sandbox though. When I see a Skill Tree, I'll give you your silver for a wise prediction.

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I find it pretty shortsighted to call anything a [X]Clone. In the world of MMOs, we're all playing Dungeons & Dragons, but we're all playing with radically different DMs who are varying levels of competent in what their friend group finds "Fun."

If WoW has good things to offer the future of MMOs, those traits should live on -- hopefully the WoW we take in will replace the aspects of FFXI that made it a rather masochistic addiction at times.

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WoW is incompatible with www.finalfantasyxiv.com so to increase one's WoW-ness is to decrease one's FFXIV-ness.

It's not necessarily improvement going from one to the other. It is merely change.

improvement is trusting one's own original vision and acting to achieve it.

Whats happening under Yoshi's regime is not "getting the best of both worlds". It's merely "replacing one world for another". Emulation =/= improvement.

The higher-ups clearly think a WoW-model will generate more fi$cal revenue, so I guess that's why Yoshi was chosen despite his evident inadequacy with respect to innovation.

I don't necessarily disagree with any of the stated, though I'd say it more along the lines of "To increase one's anything-ness is to decrease it's current-ness." I don't see what you're getting at by saying that we're becoming WoW, though - what of WoW are we gaining that is specifically WoW and not part of anything else?

Based on your negative attitude towards Yoshi-P as a symbol as opposed to a team leader, I'm guessing you're using WoW as the example because it's the dominant persuasion?

I might be pegging you totally wrong here, but if this forum were the real world, you strike me as the kind of person who barges into a discussion about cars and goes on a rampage about those "damn liberals" and how they're destroying the country with their socialism. But, I digress.

Well who cares? Which specific iconic MMO one uses to convey the point is kind of irrelevant. My point is FFXIV is becoming generic, and worse thereby.


edit: wow, I fail at typing.

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Originally Posted by User201109011315

I found that area in the dats using FFXIV model viewer.

Check it out omg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnbAGt_cdKs&t=0m52s

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So beautiful. Infact watching it made me a little bit sad knowing that it will never be. If this zone had been included in the game, close to these standards (and if we could jump, and swim) well. I'd still be Rank 1 a year later because id have spent all my game time there.

Someone email that video to Yoshi-P. He'd dig it the most tbh.