As for the class/job restrictions, I wish they'd just left it that you couldn't glamour another job's AF gear, but everything else is fair game. Well, maybe include the i90 (former myth) gear as well, since it's appearance seems to be just AF gear with some palate swapping. But it should be a rule set on specific pieces of gear and only where it makes sense rather than the broadly applied rule of glamouring only what you can equip. Gear should be able to identify which classes/jobs can equip it, and in a separate list, which classes/jobs can wear its glamour appearance. Allow those lists to match where reasonable but also be different where that's more reasonable.
My other pet peeve is the inability to readily glamour multi-slot equipment. It's one of the big reasons why I wish they'd gone with a system of equipment slots and glamour slots rather than of adding the glamour appearance to the equipped gear itself.
But why? (glamour nonsense)
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06-04-2015, 02:50 AMNiwashi
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06-04-2015, 03:58 AMRisvertasashiIn theory, we can petition SE to remove restrictions on individual items such as this. In practice, I don't believe any such request has ever been approved.Quote:
Originally Posted by odie
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06-04-2015, 04:12 AMCutie_McSnugglesThe JP forums actually have a subforum dedicated to glamour suggestions. LinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Risvertasashi
I'm not sure why we don't get one. -
06-04-2015, 04:49 AMShougunSE games have a very strong graphical identity, you can see any number of FF game new or old, never seen or not and be like "that's a FF game". Or at least I feel this way, the identity is not just in the graphical presentation either - as we all recognize carry through ideas even if they're completely unrelated stories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cutie_McSnuggles
That visual aspect was most likely not by accident :P. I suppose you can argue "this is clearly a different genre" but some people may not care (personally prefer a well groomed image over whatever, snowman bikini still makes me frown a little - this is FF not One Piece XD). In a normal FF game I expect each character, job, class, or even zone has a sort of reasoning to it with maturity yet an 'onze' of youthful playfulness, even if it isn't necessarily full on realism it still has an extreme level of polish that is not willynilly - "because I can".
Of course in terms of lore, glamour is just an illusion and it makes a bit of sense to be able to make anything be anything as just an illusion. It's not real, so why would there be the restriction of real items - yeah? Not that I say that with desire, lol - I do admit liking structure. Imo, I should also be able to dispel it.. hehe lol. I want to run around town with that Slyph de-glamouring powder XD. I'll blame it on the Dragoon when a sparkling bomb is dropped at the start of each dungeon.. :P
I feel like the case by case unlocking works alright, so they can control the image within reason - though I'd do a relic level of grinding (pre-nerf) to unlock a lore'd in (personal) toggle to see through the glamour of bikini knights. . lol. At that point they might as well remove restriction from the system. -
06-04-2015, 06:02 AMkyuvenThis is because the glamour system is currently tied to the equipment system very, very closely. It's one of those things that's incredibly hard to change after the fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Niwashi
There's no motivation on their part to change it since, again, there are some pieces of armor and clothing that are just not designed to work together.
Just because it's dumb to you, doesn't mean it's dumb to them or other people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cutie_McSnuggles
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06-06-2015, 03:17 AMBreathlessTaoAnyone who doesn't feel the dumbness in that...no, not the reasoning itself, but in the way it's implemented, needs a dose of common sense. If it was well-rounded, two-way, and really general - it wouldn't be dumb. As it is, it's just as skewed as the gender-exclusive outfit ratio has become: a tank putting on a hooded robe, or a wedding dress does not confuse players, but gods forbid a mage ever even think of putting on even a leather armor because that's confusing? There are people to whom that execution doesn't feel dumb, seriously?Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuven
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06-06-2015, 03:30 AMOne_Time
I'd just like to have what OP posted. I'm tired of wearing robes and flowered hats as a male healing class.
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06-06-2015, 03:50 AMAtlaworks
I want to wear my blacksmith slops on my monk. Best pants in the game, never going to see the light of day between the introduction of artisan gear and whenever HW crafter's AF2 comes out, where it might be glamoured. Such a shame.
I mean, I think that at least crafter/gatherer AF gear should be glamourable. It's got such nice models that are going to waste because people will pick up whatever cross-class crafting gear they can so they don't murder their armory chest. Like me. Oh god, 8 sets... -
06-06-2015, 04:09 AMRisvertasashiWhile I do generally sympathize with this argument... I would glamor my WHM AF if I could simply so people can see "there's the WHM!" for AoE heals and such...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shougun
It's a bit hypocritical when tanks can wear bikinis but twelve forbid a mage wear even leather or chainmail.
But IDC that much about it. What I would really like is the ability to wear glasses with other headgear.