Wait, we're not? I'm playing healer totally wrong then. And probably tank for that matter. You can live for five seconds. NEXT (one that actually pertains to anything I do).Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2
While I do have a half agreement in this, look at your damn party bar. If you have one person dead, and one person casting their Raise or whatever, you probably don't need to cast yours. If you have like three people dead, you probably have a different issue.Quote:
You want healers who don't know how to mana manage (or even summoners, goddamn.) to resurrect a target that's already in the process of being ressed? Unless you want your tanks to die, 1 healer resses while the other heals, Or in a special case, SMN resses.
Can we please have an option to disable the <se.#> effects?
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05-30-2015, 12:16 PMViolyre
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05-30-2015, 12:19 PMUltimateAoe2You'll be surprised how many people actually DON'T look at the party bar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violyre
(I even saw someone who has their bar scaled to the smallest....)
And I mean, I did say "IF you can" not mandatory! ._. -
05-30-2015, 12:23 PMRiepahYou don't have to understand why it bothers me, as long as you understand that it does bother me. My skin is plenty thick, but my concentration isn't the best, so unnecessary sound effects that try to get my attention to pointless stuff tend to distract me from the stuff that actually matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2
Despite the fact that calling my examples "retarded" is hardly nice of you, let me respond to your responses bit by bit.
The Warrior with the Berserk macro: Pacify is so short that in most cases, it isn't worth the healer's attention in the first place. The Warrior missing 2 GCDs there won't make much of a difference. It's certainly not worth spamming the sound effect to everyone every time - much less if your macro entails a sound effect for the start of Berserk, for 5 seconds remaining of Berserk, and for Pacify occuring. Yes, there are WARs out there with excessive macros like that.
Virus and Eye for an Eye. In content where there's only one person who has either of these skills? ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS. If you'd actually read the thread, you'd notice I'm asking for an option to disable them, not for the sound effects to be removed from the game. Trust me, I'm a pretty damn good judge of which content sound effects will help me in and in which content they won't. Neither Virus nor E4E are particularly important in any 4 man dungeons for example, so why do you have a problem with it if I turn sound notifications off there?
The healer who raises. Again. 4 player content, yeah? Just 1 healer, right? No raise macro needed for anyone who has eyes. I have eyes.
And since you're suggesting to vote kick; Vote Kick can only be initiated every couple hours. Too many macro users to kick them all, and honestly, kicking them is so unnecessary when all I want is a way to mute their sound effect spam. Better for everyone if I can just mute it and they can keep on doing what they're doing without getting kicked.
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05-30-2015, 12:24 PMLinkurrra
I think a better way to manage is if the character is black listed, the sounds won't play from them! That way the feature doesn't become useless for players that use it correctly.
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05-30-2015, 12:26 PMViolyreFair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by UltimateAoe2
Some people, I don't understand them. I got upset trying to drop it to 90% scale. :o
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05-30-2015, 12:28 PMRiepahThis would be fine if we could blacklist people during duty. Which we can't. So that suggestion is, unfortunately, completely pointless, because duties are the place where those sound effects are used most of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Linkurrra
I'm all for an extended cross-server blacklist, however, so if they give us that, that takes care of the issue just fine. I'll just blacklist people who use too many sound macros for my liking and we can call it a day. But I think it'd be so much easier to just implement a "Disable <se.#> notifications Yes/No" option. -
05-30-2015, 12:33 PMTruebladeNukeWrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riepah
BLM's, SMN's, SCH's, and WHM's are ALL capable of using Eye 4 an Eye, which CAN happen in 4 player dungeons. Remembering to use them or not is an entirely different matter of course.
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05-30-2015, 12:39 PMRiepahYeah, it CAN happen. But it doesn't ALWAYS happen. Note that I said "it isn't important in 4 player content when there's only one person who has the skill in the first place". I never implied that there can't be 2 people with the same skills in 4 man dungeons.Quote:
Originally Posted by TruebladeNuke
And even when there's more than one BLM or whatnot - who cares? Is it the end of the world if those two try to E4E the tank at the same time? Do they really need sound macros to let each other know? Do I, if I'm there as a BRD, really have to listen to those sound macros? All I'm asking for is the option to mute them for myself, I'm not asking for those notifications to be removed from the game, what's the big deal here? -
05-30-2015, 12:42 PMEulHow about 4 player content with Summoner inside? I know people will say "Why Summoner should bother raise someone?", but majority I met Summoner raise someone with case "To help healer while the healer in struggle with tanks so I'll do the raise skill".Quote:
Originally Posted by Riepah
Usually healer put raise macro with sound effect and message so there's won't be double raise. And my message is "気をつけてください！<se.9><se.9>" (Please be careful!) -
05-30-2015, 12:43 PMPlexi
Those sounds effects on warriors for pacification annoy me to no end, to the point if the warrior uses them, typically im not gonna esuna/leech them. I'm a good enough healer and pay attention enough to not need this.