Am I the only one that sort of kinda likes the nerf to SoF?

I was surprised by the difficulty of both Chrysalis and Steps of Faith in the main scenario.

By difficulty, I mean the requirement of communication and organisation to ensure all members are participating in the proper way, like a raid.

Personally I would be fine with a separation where only casual content is in the main scenario, and team coordinated events are left to endgame raids.

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Originally Posted by Rath

There needs to be a HM version (harder than the original version please), which has actual rewards of some kind.

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Obligatory Vishap triple triad card, ultra rare minion and/or a mount in an Extreme Mode?

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Originally Posted by Lilyarel

SoF was set up in a way that required you to make zero mistakes.

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Completely untrue. The DF group I cleared it with had multiple people die, sometimes more than once. (I wear this badge of shame.) We still managed to down it on the first try even despite that.

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Originally Posted by Lilyarel

Its on trial roulette. Everyone runs the rest of them just fine. So whats makes SoF different?

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People are exceptionally bad at SoF, and unlike Titan HM, you can't carry 4 people through it at current gear levels. >_>

Everything else in trial roulette with the possible exception of Chrysalis you can carry people through at current gear levels, especially given that veteran players have reasons to actively run the rest of the trials still (except Westwind, Chrysalis, and SoF). And none of them take nearly as long for a group to fail. SoF takes forever to fail, which will almost certainly happen at least once because people really are bad.

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Originally Posted by Lilyarel

Its on trial roulette. Everyone runs the rest of them just fine. So whats makes SoF different?

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Time vs Reward is what makes it different from every single other thing in that roulette. You could do a hardmode dungeon roulette for 100 tomes in less time than a SoF for 60. Something is wrong with that.

Also the main reason people left SoF right away in roulette wasn't because it was hard. They left because it's baffling and a serious test of patience to see how people could fail repeatedly at something so easy.

Either way, the nerf is fine because nobody ever did this trial looking for a challenge anyway. There is other content in the game for people looking to be challenged more.

The nerf takes away that sense of accomplishment when you finish it and also prevents you from seeing what lies at the end of the bridge.. no longer will players see the large group of barrels at the end set off by the Npc's to help take Vishap down.

Imo the ones on this forum who are happy for this nerf are the very ones who were leaving the instance w/o even trying to pass it only to come here on the forum to complain while they wait 30 min for their ban to wear off.

SE could have implemented a system where the fight just got easier after like the second wipe or those that just cant seem to get it down but w/e whats done is done and it doesn't seem like anyone who enjoys a challenge or players that understand that difficult content exists to help you as a player increase your skill will ever be catered to.

SE please bring back that Sense of Accomplishment... bring back that Feeling of Danger of knowing you could fail but then succeed.. stop pandering to these people that will only play the game during free weekends.

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Originally Posted by Seiss

Stuffs

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I'm happily accepting all nerfs that SE has given, especially everything related to main story progress. Why? Because I'm what you people call casuals whom many hates. I would happily wanted to play the game all days all week cuz I love FF XIV, getting those sense of accomplishment and all, however, I can't.

I have to work, I have to take care of my husband, laundry, clean the house, social gathering, etc, which already taken so much time of my gaming time.

I love FF series and I love FF XIV which in fact that it's a casual friendly MMORPG.

Though I got very lucky and my DF group passed the trial after just two wipes, the nerf is OK for at least two good reasons:

1) Main story content should never be too challenging: it's "casual" content. Particularly if there is an EXPANSION gated behind it! There's lots of challenging content in the game.
2) It will infuriate elitists to no end, and a game with infuriated elitists is a healthy game, because it's a game that can be played also (for example) by older people like me. Cater to elitists and you will follow the Wildstar road.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

Future Trials (and dungeons) that are tied into the storyline will also be super easy.

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Main scenario trials and dungeons have always been easy though. I really don't think much of it.

While I had my first avatar clear SOF on the first day it was available, it was a few weeks later when I got my second avatar through it and did so with 5 people who had also not yet cleared with their avatars and we saw a lot of each other as we finished the last set of main story quests so it was satisfying to see more people get through to the end of the game. And keep in mind this was before SE nerfed the fight today. So take that, quitters!