Patch notes up

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

Helping is nice but Trial Roulette was supposed to be a quick thing that you can queue and enjoy some fast content and be over with it. 40min of doing SoF to help people is fine the first time, but after the 5th time it's just too much. They should have moved it to the main story roulette or something. You might say that if you don't like it, don't queue, but that's exactly what me and probably many others have done, increasing queue times in general.

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No, the roulettes were intended to speed up queues for content that's missing certain roles. The bonuses you get from them are your reward for helping these players A) get into their instance, and B) clear the content with your help.

All that Steps really needs is half-decent DPS, a tank who is okay-ish at picking up adds and a few people who can read instructions and play accordingly. If one player knows the fight and takes the time to explain and assign people their roles, more often than not you'll succeed.

Regarding my other post. I just reread the notes, yea I agree, that 3rd shadow would have been a pain anyway with the echo. Sometimes bahamut would get pushed by dots alone.

I didn't mean to imply that this thread was "loling" about the echo and it being easy... Actually I'm just thinking of the party finder messages on my home server leviathan after the echo came to turn 9 for the first day of the patch and the conversations going on in my linkshells... :x

"ECHO TIEMZ, come halp me clear turne nine plox kthx!" "um, have you done this before? Or know anything about the fight at all" "No, but there is echo nao!" "...."

Really like you all mentioned, the echo is probably going to be more of a pain for those who are clearing it. I know we already push it too fast in some stages. It will require adjustment to keep farming it. Our poor warrior hasn't got his axe yet... while others in my static have like 4 alt weapons... >.<

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

Helping is nice but Trial Roulette was supposed to be a quick thing that you can queue and enjoy some fast content and be over with it. 40min of doing SoF to help people is fine the first time, but after the 5th time it's just too much. They should have moved it to the main story roulette or something. You might say that if you don't like it, don't queue, but that's exactly what me and probably many others have done, increasing queue times in general.

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Im sorry did I miss "quick" in the description for the q somewhere? Lol cant believe you said that like its a valid excuse for dodging content. "It's not quick and easy thats not what its meant to be."
<3 you.

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

Trial Roulette was supposed to be a quick thing that you can queue and enjoy some fast content and be over with it.

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I don't remember SE saying this. In all honesty, I believe the trial roulette is there to help new players the reward isn't that great. If your leaving the trial because you got Steps of Faith then you are missing the whole point of the roulette. It's random, if you get it deal with it and at least try and not just give up. The reason its in trial roulette is because its a trial and they need people to continue helping new player though it simple. No one said it had to be some quick think that you can queue and enjoy fast content and be over with it.

I'm truly pleased. No nerfs, outside that modification in T13 which is more than welcome. /clap Thanks for not taking the fun away from us, SE! <3 I loved the pony drop rate modification as well.

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Originally Posted by LTEvil

Im sorry did I miss "quick" in the description for the q somewhere? Lol cant believe you said that like its a valid excuse for dodging content. "It's not quick and easy thats not what its meant to be."
<3 you.

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I dodge it not because it's hard, but because it's boring and frustrating when people can't follow even simple instructions. I mean it can't get simpler than "don't shoot the dragonkiller before he's in the red circle" can it? But nope, just like life, pugs, pugs will find a way...

I guess it doesn't matter cause I don't queue for it anymore. They can make it whatever they want for all I care now, especially since we don't even get any more poetics because I'm capped at 450 halfway through the week anyway.

Although I really wish they had made some kind of at least token crafting adjustments or gathering adjustments, I suppose I cant be too mad about this patch.

There is zero here that affects me, is all.

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Originally Posted by Remus

I don't remember SE saying this. In all honesty, I believe the trial roulette is there to help new players the reward isn't that great. If your leaving the trial because you got Steps of Faith then you are missing the whole point of the roulette. It's random, if you get it deal with it and at least try and not just give up. The reason its in trial roulette is because its a trial and they need people to continue helping new player though it simple. No one said it had to be some quick think that you can queue and enjoy fast content and be over with it.

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Who's saying I'm leaving the trial? I just don't queue in the first place...

The issue is the time difference between SoF and the other trials is just too big. If I have 30min to spare, I can't queue trials at all because I might get SoF when before SoF each trial was less than 10min on average, maybe 20min if you have a lot of new people.

Actually pretty happy about the 10% Echo Buff. Means I don't have to try as hard to carry Party Finder DPS ;)

No but really, I'll take the Echo over mechanic buffs anyday

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Originally Posted by PotatoTree

Who's saying I'm leaving the trial? I just don't queue in the first place...

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Yeah, same here. Since that thing was added to the trial roulette, I don't bother anymore. 10 poetics for more than half an hour of trying and people messing up? no thanks. I really miss these 5 minutes run for almost free poetics. I'l always prefer tol run another expert in the mean time.