Time to address long queue times for low level players

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

This is the most pressing question that they FAIL to answer many times over... The reward for low level roulette is simply horrendous for any well geared level 50 to even bother doing it. SE should have revise the reward to 150 Soldiery and 40 Poetic.

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Love this idea, but you also get a lot of a-holes that will only speed run the low level dungeons this way. And not letting the new players learn properly, maybe even kick those players.

They also should think about adding pre-made group duty roulette low level. There were a lot of times that I wanted to help me DPS friend on my healer with low level roulette, but I couldn’t because we couldn’t join the roulette as a group. Get on to it SE!

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

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Yeah it's a really good idea honestly. It just doesn't address the community issue of, "I am in a hurry to play a game so let's skip everything i can possibly skip and try to finish the dungeon in 5 minutes" kind of players. NA gamers hate grinds, SE loves grinds. Grinds make NA gamers impatient and impatient gamers in low level content create negative experiences for potentially new players.

I like your solution I really do but I've had the misfortune of experiencing these impatient level 50s who are just there cuz they feel they have to be... there has to be more we can do such as extra rewards for FULL CLEAR of dungeons to discourage speed running of lower level content. I don't care about level 50 speed run content but low level stuff people are exping or just getting used to the content...

Yeah I truly understand the BIG issue when it comes to level 50 "veteran" players thinking they are so entitled to speed run lower level dungeons and abusing other people. Especially if you get those "entitled tanks" that acts like everyone has to run to their speed, but also remember, if the other three players refuse to play the speed run game, the tank cannot get anything done. And this waste their time, if they leave, they get penalty, which further makes things worse because he will not get it. The BEST way to counter this? IF you leave duty finder, you loose all the bonus of the day, so you can only get the daily roulette but can no longer spam the "adventure in need" bonus. Though I can see some players will troll to get vote to dismiss...

NA players are notorious with their truly horrendous reputation for being rude, impatient, and ignorant "expletive". The solution, which is far from perfect, is to move to Japanese server with international players such as Tonberry. Find english speakers FC, and your problem is solved. The difference is NIGHT and DAY, once you are spoiled rotten with the quality of players from Japanese servers, you will never ever ever want to go back to NA servers ever again, period. Unless you have a very tight knit group there that you can team up constantly.

The great thing about Japanese servers: No gill seller spams, EVER... 90% of the duty finder players know what they suppose to do - the majority of end gamers do not really speed run, they do steady pull, it does not take them long to figure out if the healer can do speed run or not. Usually most of their tanks will adjust their pull speed accordingly - they realize wiping is not speeding up their run. Most endgame dungeons are 20-25 mnts, 15 mnts if your group willing to speed run it. Lower level dungeon is around 30 mnts or less (compared to 40-50 mnts in NA servers). If you are in smaller japanese server, be happy, you can always do HUNT with very few trolls ruining it for you. Prices are DIRT cheap on a lot of stuffs, aka no RMT jacking prices up.

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Originally Posted by Luvbunny

The difference is NIGHT and DAY, once you are spoiled rotten with the quality of players from Japanese servers, you will never ever ever want to go back to NA servers ever again, period. Unless you have a very tight knit group there that you can team up constantly.

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I would kill to be able to run difficult end game content without epeen attitudes everywhere and player entitlement issues that are borderline sadistic... or the overwhelming amount of players who just can't do the content at all due to severely lacking skill that can never be improved upon no matter how much practice you do with them (I ain't referring to noobs either). At least on my server these issues are creating so much 'unfun' for me that I've been debating on letting sub expire and moving on.

Try making a new character in Tonberry or Belias. Tonberry will be perfect for you, it is very international with most shout is in English. Prices are stable. NO SPAM ever!! LOTS of medium size FC that are english speakers, plenty of Australian players. And my god, running DF is so much joy here... Smooth, no drama, and BIG BIG BIG difference. Look me up in Belias, or Coco Roca in Tonberry if you need english speaker FC :)

Try it, it won't take long to level up to 50. NA servers for me is not worth the aggravating. I want to log and play in peace, not in a shouting match with dumb DPS who cannot understand that "you must kill the adds" and when it is red circle, MOVE... I can see that raiding for Coil can be an issue to duty finder, but if you find english speaker FC that does a lot of raid, this should not be a problem. Also if you know the mechanic and know what to do, there is really not much to talk about. But the attitude is BIG BIG BIG difference, people say hello, they bow, they wave goodbye, etc... Amerika servers are more of "don't give a shit" about you, it's all about me...

I hope they add those AI Npc fast, I am one of the many players who was stupid enough to level both healers and tanks first, which meant that there was no quests left for my dps classes. Now I am leveling the remaining dps classes and having to wait 30 to 60 minutes just to do a low level dungeon is insane.

Atleast make it so having the Chocobo out will not interfer with the Duty Finder?

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Originally Posted by Rekujin

I think the 3 AI NPC's would be perfect, Guild Wars did this and it worked perfectly fine.

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FFXI did it too ;) , TRUST system

the only way to fix it , is giving ppl a way to play X job and get the exp bonus from LLR on another job , but SE wont allow that .

Wait for 3.0 (DRK , AST ) and level your dps jobs

50~ minutes for Cutter's Cry, immediately have 2 people quit before the dungeon even begins.

FATE grinding forever, and ever.

It would need a real flexible system to solve that problem.

One idea:
If too many DPS are in the queue, party size would automatically increased to 5, with 3 DPS.
All mobs and bosses in the dungeon would have 30% more HP then.

this could basically work for up to 8 people, 1 tank, 1 healer and 6 DPS and the game adjusts the enemy HP accordingly.

You gotta realize, most players do level DPS only, forever and ever. This is like thousand times worse in NA servers, where majority of players abuse any new tanks or healer, forcing them to either quit the game, stop doing any dungeons or end up leveling another DPS jobs which further makes things worse. Next time you go to dungeons, make sure to say good things about your tank and healer, assuming they deserve it, and give them your recommendation.