Why did SE decide to make the three new classes not require base classes?

I really hope they do ditch classes. They are leftovers from 1.0 and were something Tanaka made. Now they serve no purpose.

In 1.0, we used to bring THM to Ifrit, and could trio gold key bosses on classes. Now..after level 30, they are 100% useless. To change the lore would be easy, they'd just have to change some of the text. Meh.

AND PLEASE for the love of god..separate SCH and SMN. I do recall them saying they will finally do this, crossing fingers for it being the expansion!

Since classes are almost useless and a relic of 1.0 SE probably does want to ditch them. However they most likely don't want to go back and reprogram all the class quests and cross class system. It would be a much cleaner system if they removed classes altogether. But I think they are going the from here on out route that all new jobs do not have base classes and that is just the way its going to be.

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Originally Posted by KokoGigiyako

Classes don't serve any purpose other than lore, and this is why I don't see the current 9 classes being removed from the game. Just think about the White Mage questline for exemple, the adventurer is THE ONLY non-padjal allowed to learn the ways of white magic and was only chosen for that becuase of his great skill as a conjurer.

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Honestly, though, they could probably accomplish the same thing while merging WHM and CNJ. Start the game as a CNJ, progress to 30, have a quest that requires 30 CNJ 15 THM, completion of the quest changes you to WHM. Instead of having equipable soulstones, just have it be like any other storyline item that we carry in our not-part-of-the-inventory bag.

Though, it would do weird things to cross-class skills, now that I think of it.

I like the cross class skills. Gives a reason to try out other classes and it's a way to progress one's character. Getting rid of Jobs doesn't need to mean getting rid of cross class skills though.

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Originally Posted by Prototype909

I don't necessarily mind the fact that they're getting rid of classes as the story for those jobs will now just be continuous rather than split into 1/2 Class 1/2 Job as it is now. However I am worried about what this means for the existing classes who are still bound by the system compared to their new counterparts.

You can't cross-class job abilities as it stands, none of them. You can only cross class "Class" abilities, so how will this work with the new jobs? Will they just be self contained and be unable to take or give anything from the existing classes? Or will they re-work this system entirely?

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My guess is that the current classes will serve all the cross-class skill needs for future jobs. Except Thiefs. Thieving scumbacks who only take and give nothing in return.

I love classes!!! I understand the need to Dumb down the game for new players now. Cant have them leveing other classes to open other jobs now can we? Nope, Just BOOM!! you the Dark Knight now...how?? maybe..just cuss. Where's the LORE? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Maybe the new jobs work like how the classes worked before the jobs came ingame 1.20 (but with limited cross-class skills). Only that they are called jobs instead of classes.

It would be nice if SE part away the classes from the jobs and change the classes into their own jobs. The amount of jobs would be double ^^
THM could be a DoT job again, CNJ something like RDM and so on.

It got dumbed down way back in 1.0 when the ability change update happened and even further when the job update happened. Classes were originally envisioned as a way for people to customize and create their own unique class, and presumably certain combinations of abilities would create a job, of course with the game so badly rushed as it was it never really exactly came to that.

With all that gone and everything railroading you into a single set of abilities, there's not reason to keep classes anymore aside from the obvious coding aspects. It's too late to go back now to introduce more customization, so might as well remove the classes altogether since no endgame content requires them, when even in 1.0 you could get away with certain classes in endgame, mostly THM for a situational but useful AoE Sanguine Rite.

I operated under the assumption that classes only apply to roles you can begin the game with, the moving to the new jobs became an option when you could swap after beating the level 10 quest.

I mean, crafting and gathering classes are already set up so that you walk in at level one and work straight to 50. If SE writes it that way, I can't see there being that much confusion.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

I mean, crafting and gathering classes are already set up so that you walk in at level one and work straight to 50. If SE writes it that way, I can't see there being that much confusion.

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I've actually found several that imply a sizable gap in time between one quest and another.
Of course they also imply a time limit on some like the armorer quest.