How is your new zodiak drop rates so far?

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Originally Posted by Felis

I can't understand the hate about AV.
It is the best dungeon below lv50 that is not a faceroll dungeon.

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Another issue is that if you have a pre-50 character, particularly a tank, you're sort of at the whim of whether or not they want a full clear for the exp or not as opposed to speed running most of the rest of the dungeons that take 10-15minutes max.

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Originally Posted by Sleigh

Enemies have a lot of HP relative to the iLVL sync, they hit hard, and PUGs are notoriously unreliable in it. It's definitely not something you want to get stuck on.

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In the old days, 2 years in the past, they had much more HP ^^
At least you don't have to do a 17 minute speedrun to get 100% relict item drop, where every pull and AoE have to be optimized to save every bit second you can.

It's ATMA all over again. Yay. Just... yay. -_-

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Originally Posted by Felis

In the old days, 2 years in the past, they had much more HP ^^
At least you don't have to do a 17 minute speedrun to get 100% relict item drop, where every pull and AoE have to be optimized to save every bit second you can.

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1/4 WP
1/1 Copperbell
0/2 Hullbreaker
0/2 Aurum Vale

With a decent group, who knows how to skip most of the mobs it can be done in about 14-15 minutes, which is nice. However, if you have a gimp troup you sit in there for 40+ minutes -.-

Okay, so did some number crunching here.

Based on all of the posts that I've gotten (up to #34), there are 311 runs, with 45 successes. That comes out to roughly 15% (14.5% approx). So, it's not quite as bad as Atma, just appears to be so.

On hullbreaker now. I finally got through wanderer's palace and copperbell was a first try.
Wish Hullbreaker wasn't so long. At least I'm getting tomes.

1/1 WP
1/1 AV
1/4 Haukker hm
0/6 Copperbell hm
1/2 Lost city

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Originally Posted by Keyln

Okay, so did some number crunching here.

Based on all of the posts that I've gotten (up to #34), there are 311 runs, with 45 successes. That comes out to roughly 15% (14.5% approx). So, it's not quite as bad as Atma, just appears to be so.

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Definitely not as bad as Atma, but the odds are juuuust low enough that if you get stuck in s string of bad luck you still risk gouging your own eyes out while watching 6-7 of your friends waltzing around with nothing else to do while you continue to suffer.

1/5 AV
1/11 Haukke HM
1/7 Lost City
1/18 Sastasha HM

1/4 DD
1/5 Brayflox HM
1/18 Snowcloak
1/5 Halatali HM

1/9 WP
1/3 Copperbell HM
1/3 Hullbreaker
1/1 Qarn HM

1/3 AK
1/1 Pharos
1/2 Tam-Tara HM
1/1 Stone Vigil HM

16/91 = 17.58%

1/4 AV
0/2 WP
0/7 haukke HM

I'm going slowly because the prices for the crafting part are totally insane. The alchemist craft is at 5m currently on Cerberus... The others are in the range of 600k-2m. Totally not worth it. with my friends me might succeed to craft 3 of them. The others will have to wait that the top crafters stop being douches and start to notice that awful overpricing isn't helping anyone