Goad

Create a macro for it for gods sake... Or just type "Goad" in chat or something... I don't play as a WAR, and therefore it's not very easy to know when to use it.

I've even been yelled at, for using Goad when the WAR apparently didn't need it...

All the good tanks that I know, made a macro as soon as 2.4 was out. It should be common sense...

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Originally Posted by Almalexia

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Good info for a new player or someone that played a job which provided lil utility for WAR.

The reason why I generalized in the beginning is simple. Just because I know how WAR works, doesn't mean every Ninja does. The job is a week old. Telling them to get it into their mind set with big pulls isn't a negative thing.

In a Dungeon (tome grinds):

I expect a WAR to do Storm's Eye if they are in my PT against a single target. Why? You are a tank and not a DPS. It is more beneficial for you to keep SE going so I can maintain my 2 DoTs and push more filler DPS via my AE Combo.

Higher End Content as a WAR MT (Situational):

In a Burn Phase you can apply SE while a NIN can focus on DPS and DoT. However, if your WAR is getting wrecked then they can focus on Storm's Path and your NIN can take over Slash debuff.

I feel the increase in your Storm's Eye was put in for a reason besides giving NIN its own version.

Since most dungeons are speedrun I will goad the brd/drg/mnk or other nin if there is a PLD or the WAR if there is a WAR on the big pulls. If they need it for any other situation in a normal dungeon they need to learn to manage TP better.

As Mnk I always assume that I run out of TP first (even with invigorate) in prolonged boss encounters so would likely to Goad them if the fight goes on too long.

everyone remembers the first time they forgot to remove sprint off their hot-bars, and then the caster run ahead of the group and pulling agro.

I never know what to think of these new jobs...

The only time a WAR will need Goad is if you're doing a speed run - in which case, you might as well just put it on him/her once everything has been pulled and the OP spam is about to begin as it will have roughly the same effect as using it half way through their OP spamming.

Also Unchained + Berserk OP spamming is the highest damage you can do to all mobs per GCD. Usually all the mobs are dead by the time I've been pacified and I'm usually not bottomed out on TP at that point, however, I do run the risk of that if I go straight to the next boss and pull immediately. I had this problem in Snowcloak SRs and while it wasn't a huge issue it would've been nice to have a Goad in that situation.

Other than this very specific scenario where you're speed running a dungeon, a Goad macro is handy as the NIN can't see your TP and he shouldn't have to guess when someone will need it.

I'll give someone Goad/Army's Paeon if TP users need them but to use them "whenever they are available" or "watch the Tank" or "watch the mob size" is not a good indicator. The first one is a complete waste because of cooldown and MP. The second is hard to tell when watching for your own survival and rotation. You could watch the mob size but for that I have a question.

How would you run a dungeon/fast run without a BRD or NIN? I ask this because I have seen Tanks pull multiple targets even with 2 MP users still keeping the pace of the dungeon.

I'll abide and use my tools to help out but I can't read minds and some TP users don't have problems whether Tank or DPS and generally won't need the extra TP. Lastly if using a controller it is likely Goad is on a secondary crossbar.

Adding the message as a macro helps a lot in rotational flow.

Just my thoughts but again all you need to do is ask. No one can read your TP or TP management ability.

Let's make a deal.... You Goad me, and I'll keep the slashing debuff up! :p

Found it a little funny how an update in XI recently was added that let you see the TP of Avatars, Puppets, and Pets for BST, but XIV still doesn't have one in it by now. XI should have had that eons ago, but it should be something obvious for XIV. Just have that information pop up when you target a party member, doesn't need to be always shown in the party list, but it should be seen by now.

Id rather give it to the brd or drg so they can keep up AOE spam imo.