this is getting Ridiculous

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Skyl1n3

Believe me I have, although it is pretty cool seeing a stampede of people running through Coerthas for Marraco for instance.

---

the thing is we still hit it just like u say even whn it resets but it dies so fast that we dotn get full cred,

I've noticed a trend on Odin this weekend, and that is the Linkshells being rather silent. People got fed up with all the ninja pullers, and a particular FC too...and now keep the marks they find for their group and FC. It has had the effect of making the Hunts more like they were supposed to be, with people actively hunting instead of hordes of people just standing around waiting for the next LS announcement/shout.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial

It should be noted to anyone not on Excalibur, we have a teamspeak where everyone co-ordinates, gathers together, and decides a time to pull so everyone can get maximum credit. Anyone can join, there's really no restriction barring your party leader having a mic.
It has become the accepted way of how Excalibur does hunts, allowing the majority to get full credit by waiting and pulling in unison.
Pulling as a small group just meant they'd screwed over a lot of people from getting credit, which imo is kind of selfish. Clearly the tank was trying to reset so more of the group to get credit. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

---

Actually, hunts aren't meant to be zerged by the whole server per mark. If you're actively hunting around maps and you find a mark, you're not suposed/forced to call it for the whole server to kill it (even though if you do, that's up to the player's choice) and if a group if legitly scouting and farming for their own party and find a mob, you have abosolutely no right to interfere with the game mechanics and ruin those players experience, that could even fall under harrasment. If you are in a collective TS/LS for hunting, that's your choice (I respect it, even though it's the actual source of disaster with hunts). You chose to share (sharing is not the same as being forced to share something because you want to get something without effort, talk about being selfish there) and you have no right to call out those who chose not to, by killing the marks upon discovery.
Many people don't get along. Many people hate the fact that others are leeching kills while AFKing in towns waiting for someone to post a location they've spent hours scouting for. It's just not only about not getting full credit because many people zerged a mark, it's because you risk to get ZERO credit because mob texture might disappear while it's exploding within seconds because there were many people around. You can't blame people for choosing their own path to killing hunts (which in fact happens to be the designed way) because they're fed up of getting nothing thanks to the leechers. And calling out would only work if they remade the hunt systems to have (even more) greatly increased HP, contribution rate and texture priority.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial

If your thought process is "I know there's probably a lot of people that are on the way to this, but screw them I want this for myself" Then yes, I see nothing wrong with selfish behaviour being punished.

---

Pot meet kettle, lol

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Skyl1n3

I should feel lucky then considering we have twice the population of Excalibur, but not all Phoenix peeps rely on just hunts.

---

I hope you're not taking that info from XIVSoul, that site has been bugged for several days now.

The Excalibur Teamspeak Network is actually a pretty good example of how the zerg mindset dilutes and destroys hunting as an enjoyable activity. You basically need to go in there to have even a fair stab at hunting credit, since they have have such a comprehensive database of windows that they catch everything the second it enters spawn window unless one of the local SA goon guilds hijacks something first. And if someone can't use TS or doesn't want to get on voice chat you're SOL. Public groups have even begun kicking people for not being able or willing to get on the hunt TS.

It's also not 'public' - it's a privately managed space for three hunting linkshells. People are allowed in as a courtesy, there, not a public service.

Try to do hunts with the intended number of people on our server? Chances are you'll get blacklisted for not sharing partial credit with our max-pop server and its 600 other people, and never see a mark again in your life.

Also XIVSoul is bad and gives unreliable numbers due to its gathering algorithm.

Addendum:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by IshidaTsukuyomi

The mobs are for everyone you sound selfish.

---

The mobs are for up to 4, 8, and 24 people depending on rank. That 60 or more can claim credit on them is a design error, not something you should be allowed to take for granted.

Am I the only one who read the OP complaining and thought that the person that manged to grab it and reset is a hero? Good job, guy that managed to reset the Mark. Many hunters appreciate your valiant efforts.

On the same token. Shame on you, OP!

If you're the first one that found it and somebody resets the mark, you can report them. Most of the time, resetting is not an issue but if the spotter doesn't get full credit due to it, it can fall under abuse / harassment.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by IshidaTsukuyomi

The mobs are for everyone you sound selfish.

---

Pretty ironic, don't you think?
Getting seals for doing nothing but wait in town while others spend hours scouting, just because you don't want to miss a single mark to get max. possible of seals asap? No wait, you're right. Damn selfish groups that kill the marks they were scouting for.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by IshidaTsukuyomi

Knuckleheads that think like me

---

When other knuckleheads start constantly KS'ing your mob, wasting your time, and robbing you of your credit. Come back to this tread and let us know about it.