Possible solution to "ranged only dps"

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Originally Posted by Ilean

the guinea pigs are clearly better at interpreting the results than them.

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They clearly seem to think so, at least. Haha.

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Originally Posted by Raim

You seem to be forgetting a common factor. It seems a majority of damage dealers I play with in FFXIV are a little..to say it politely, slow in the head. In an ideal world, you could get a group full of melee DPS classes to do the dungeons, and they would be smart enough to run OUT of the AoE attacks and heal themselves when necessary, but that just isn't going to happen.

I am glad you know what you are doing however.

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Was going to reply to this thread... luckly saw these words and smiled lol sadly this explains how things are, coupled worse by the fact that we've been in easy mode for a year so most people people aren't use to actually playing the game which now requires you to position your player properly or "Play smart". Sad thing is DD is the easiest job in the game >.< There are sooooo many enmity tools and other such abilities which should make your dd untouchable, coupled with the fact we can all cure ourselves... it's sad that people are so braindead most parties go with a solution which requires you to think less... which in turn doesn't make anyone better cause they're still not learning xD

The only viable logical solution to this is to make your own parties and kick the dummies... dd's are a plenty like other mmo's... NA's are so anti-social though on this game, so not sure if that would work for alot of people :P Come outta your shells and become more social and make friends OUTSIDE your linkshells and look around. There are plenty of good players and will sadly take awhile for people to adjust to the fact now that you actually have to use brain power in parties (not that much even tbh LoL)

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Originally Posted by LuxLex

Except, as melee, when you step back, you are not dealing damage, thus lowering your DPS and making archers more desirable.

As for curing yourself - either you are using TP abilities to do so (thus lowering your DPS) or being an MP sponge. You won't have enough mp yourself for more than a couple cures (unless you're going to disengage, lowering your DPS) and more people needing to be healed means that you need more healers (or your whole group has to go slower and wait for MP if you don't all just wipe).

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because its way more fun to just zerg everything down DPS FAST AS POSSIBLE! then to have to use some kind of strategy.. geezus.. kids while whine about anything these days..

Delirium LS on Lindblum server just killed Ogre with 1 archer and the rest were melee DPS (2 mrd + 1 lnc), then 2 conj, 1 thm and 1 gla.
It was a very cool fight! Difficult for tank, difficult for mages and difficult for melee. Everyone had to be perfect for killing the boss. Now it'll become easier ^^

Btw, we raised TP with InvigorateII + throwing weapons then went in for BR and run away.

Happy to have defeated the Ogre without a full party of archers and mages. It made me and my LS mates really happy :P

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Originally Posted by Forbin

because its way more fun to just zerg everything down DPS FAST AS POSSIBLE! then to have to use some kind of strategy.. geezus.. kids while whine about anything these days..

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More fun, no. More efficient, yes.

Some people care more about the latter, sadly.

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Originally Posted by popdai

Delirium LS on Lindblum server just killed Ogre with 1 archer and the rest were melee DPS (2 mrd + 1 lnc), then 2 conj, 1 thm and 1 gla.
It was a very cool fight! Difficult for tank, difficult for mages and difficult for melee. Everyone had to be perfect for killing the boss. Now it'll become easier ^^

Btw, we raised TP with InvigorateII + throwing weapons then went in for BR and run away.

Happy to have defeated the Ogre without a full party of archers and mages. It made me and my LS mates really happy :P

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I'd love to see video of this if you recorded. :)

No videos, maybe a screenshot at the end.

Btw, we'll go again and maybe someone will do a video next time :P
This was the 3rd attempt with LS mates... We thought we would have wiped, but we won :P

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Originally Posted by Neko_Yanagi

I'd love to see video of this if you recorded. :)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zey64...layer_embedded


Mine did it 4 healers, 1 archer last night...

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Originally Posted by MeowyWowie

Fixed.

Seriously. Ogre can be killed without a single archer and without any damage sustained except for the tank. Inferno drop can be stunned, and everything else avoided. You never have to run away from anything aside from running from ghosts when they port.

Manage your hate. Pay attention to the log. Pay attention to the ghosts. Stand in the right spots. And make sure everyone knows their role.

The only difference between archers and melee DD is more exact positioning (very easy) and stunning (again, quite easy.)

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Liked. Solutions > Whining.

One thing i will comment on i'm pretty sure MeowyWowie if referring to leg sweep and Pounce in forms of stun, but i'm pretty sure SE is gonna have to release a vid of them beating it w/o arc's only or something of that nature lol <.<