Let's talk about religion.

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Originally Posted by elreed

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That's was one of the most in-depth explanations that I read about 1.0 and one that I've been looking for for a long time. Thanks for making the time to type all of this.

It seemed like 1.0 was more personalized but more complicated at the same time. I guess they simplified it so more people can play even ones like me who have little mmo experience. Although I would love to see some of 1.0 elements in ARR, I doubt that they removed it just to bring it back again.

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Originally Posted by KhalidTheGreat

It seemed like 1.0 was more personalized but more complicated at the same time. I guess they simplified it so more people can play even ones like me who have little mmo experience. Although I would love to see some of 1.0 elements in ARR, I doubt that they removed it just to bring it back again.

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The problem is, they watered it down to much. Now most of the content can be facerolled.
Yes 1.0 was overly complicated in some regards, but near the end of it it was the game I wished ARR would start at and remove the small but still persistent downers.
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I still love the game, and there is much that I still can do. But every time I look at it and see how devs leave out stuff that was in 1.0 which players liked, stuff even in FFXI people begged them from Promathia onward (which they got later on).
It feels like the FFXIV:ARR devs have 0 experience in MMOs, or a strong case of Amnesia.

Take things from WoW like games, full OK with that. But why take something from 1.0 WoW ignoring the improvements of that part?
Why even implement ANYTHING with elements, if they NEVER plan to include them because "...it is just for RP"? My stats don't show up when examined, I always could say in RP "I am x from y I am nearly immune to z" and get away with it. It also shows nowhere which God is my Patron. Neither does happen anything special if it happens to be my in game birthday.
If it is just for RP, why do drops of Primals have elemental resists if they do NOTHING.


BLMs whining about that they MIGHT not do as much damage as now if this is implemented. How about learning to adjust and not just face roll? Even in WoW you had to watch out with few mobs not to cast certain things on them. It was in EVERY FF that casting certain magics on certain mobs would cure them, while sometimes Raise 3 could be use to kill a Zombie. Do you see us melee whine because some mobs have "improved resistance to blunt/slashing/piercing"?
BLMs rather wish to have the full elemental wheel in your spell base instead of whining about something.

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Originally Posted by Kimikryo

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The blm thing is pretty easy to adjust in my opinion. I mean just switch fire / blizzard / thunder spells into neutralized ones, and add an element manipulation skill like maybe the one mnk has (fists of fire / wind / earth).

That way they can choose witch element they want to cast dots with or do powerful single target attacks or aoes.

I don't think it's gonna change their gameplay that much. So I don't think this is the real reason to not implement elements in-game.

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Originally Posted by Kimikryo

The problem is, they watered it down to much. Now most of the content can be facerolled.

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It is team based content, so that is the natural result. Go with a team that can't cooperate and suddenly, difficult fights! If you use voice chat and play with friends, you really shouldn't be able to die to any content in any game. Unless said game uses instant kill mechanics combined with lag/RNG to catch you when you can't dodge.

You expect choice of Deity/Religion to be a meaningful choice? Have you been playing this game??

ARR has virtually no meaningful choices... gear, battles, skills, progression,... everything is rigidly scripted and mapped out for players.

Why should this be any different?


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Actually, there is ONE aspect of ARR where players can make real decisions: The Economy/Market wards

However, as crafted items don't have much impact on the game, even ARR's economy struggles for relevancy.

My other character, a paladin/white mage, picked Azeyma for one reason: Praise the Sun!

What I find funny is that FFXIV is following Square's anti-secular tradition with religion always being evil in their games. The beast tribes worship their Primals and are answered by having them wreak havoc on Eorzea. Who remembers in the main story quest after Titan what happened when you prayed for your fallen friends? You heard the sounds of nature, and nothing else.