Suggestion, make light party content tank/dps/healer/support

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

I suppose you're one of those guys who believe warriors are offtanks and paladins are main tanks. you lost credibility in the first sentence. Bravo. And why would it be possible for scholar to match summoner dps? Do you even read what you write? I also didn't compare physic to cure. Other posters in the topic did. I don't see what is so hard for you to realize that WHM can do nothing be heal (essentially). Scholars are much more than healers. Why do you wish for scholars be both better at healing (than a class that only heals) and provide support to the party.

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1) I'm not a guy
2) Definitely not, they are both tanks ;) (as WHM and SCH are both healers)...see what I did there? :p
3) Yes I read what I write...unavoidable really
4) White mages have superior aoe damage to ANY class....if we really have to talk about healers doing damage.
5) I don't wish for Scholars to be both better at healing AND provide support...not sure you read what you write either, I said Scholars are healers!! ...and that's the way I'd like to keep it.

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

You're messing with random numbers (crits, unreliable pet actions) in your explanation. Why don't you try to use reliable numbers which you can replicate in any situation?

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I did. You're just ignoring them. Both SCH and WHM cures are affected by crits. SCH's cures are simply enhanced more by crits. And again, there is Lustrate...it's about as reliable as it gets. A straight 25% heal at no mp cost and no enmity.

If you're pet is acting unreliably, put it on Obey and control it. The only ability not on Obey is Embrace. Again, if your group isn't derping up, your pet doesn't have to throw out extra Embraces. My pet is pretty reliable. I'm not sure what yours does.

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Originally Posted by Rosy

1) I'm not a guy
2) Definitely not, they are both tanks ;) (as WHM and SCH are both healers)...see what I did there? :p
3) Yes I read what I write...unavoidable really
4) White mages have superior aoe damage to ANY class....if we really have to talk about healers doing damage.
5) I don't wish for Scholars to be both better at healing AND provide support...not sure you read what you write either, I said Scholars are healers!! ...and that's the way I'd like to keep it.

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1) Not sure the point of adding this. In ENGLISH (the language you are typing in) "guys" when used in second person (e.g "you guys") is gender neutral.
2) WHM can heal main tanks just fine (not according to your quote) was the point i was bringing. Try to misquote your way out of this one.
3) Not sure why you responded to a rhetorical question.
4) That's because they are healers and only healers. If they weren't the best at their role, then people will only play the class that is both best at healing and can do something else.
5) So now you (unbelievable if you actually play scholar) believe scholar has no support skills, unique to scholar. It's fact that whm has no support skills and scholars do. They both do have healing skills.

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

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Okay. Number one. Embrace Skill. I have 2 separate Physick for this purpose.Regular Physick and macro'd Physick+Embrace for single target healing. It still heals perfectly even others on low health, Eos still obey on my command to heal the target. And you saying Lustrate is not greater than everything.Ok.Lets compare to Benediction. Benediction have instant cast yes but the skill animation? No.Benediction technically takes 1 second to land or target due to skill animation. Also don't forget that Benediction have 300s (5 min) cooldown.Lustrate is MaxHP-based healing ability by flat 25% MaxHP per Aetherflow charge. It's a good "Oh crap" skill aside from Benediction although it heals less, but able to spam 3 Lustrate at a time means 75% MaxHP healed.And the cooldown is FAR lower than Benediction which is 1 minute per 3 charge of Aetherflow. 100% HP heal every 5 minute vs 75% HP healed per 1 minute (375% HP total for 5 minute).

*Gets flame shield*

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Originally Posted by Pooky_Pasha

I did. You're just ignoring them. Both SCH and WHM cures are affected by crits. SCH's cures are simply enhanced more by crits. And again, there is Lustrate...it's about as reliable as it gets. A straight 25% heal at no mp cost and no enmity.

If you're pet is acting unreliably, put it on Obey and control it. The only ability not on Obey is Embrace. Again, if your group isn't derping up, your pet doesn't have to throw out extra Embraces. My pet is pretty reliable. I'm not sure what yours does.

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Not sure if serious. I quoted your use of embrace. I did not say anything else about pet skills. Again, you have no control over your party members. If your party takes aoe damage your pet will embrace. There's nothing you can do about that. You make yourself look like an idiot when we are talking about macroing embrace and you reply "derp use obey".

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Originally Posted by AarinEphemera

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*Gets flame shield*

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I didn't compare, nor did I hint to compare lustrate to benediction. I compare it to cure II.

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

1) Not sure the point of adding this. In ENGLISH (the language you are typing in) "guys" when used in second person (e.g "you guys") is gender neutral.
2) WHM can heal main tanks just fine (not according to your quote) was the point i was bringing. Try to misquote your way out of this one.
3) Not sure why you responded to a rhetorical question.
4) That's because they are healers and only healers. If they weren't the best at their role, then people will only play the class that is both best at healing and can do something else.
5) So now you (unbelievable if you actually play scholar) believe scholar has no support skills, unique to scholar. It's fact that whm has no support skills and scholars do. They both do have healing skills.

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1) "you're one of those guys" - is not "you guys" - "you're one of those people" would have been a more accurate way of including genders.
2) WHMs can heal main tanks...but if you have a WHM and SCH in group, SCH is main tank healer, WHM is better at raid healing.
3) Because it was a stupid comment that required a stupid answer
4) Did you read what I said "best....AOE DAMAGE...."
5) Nope you read it wrong again, and yes I play scholar, of course they have support skills.... on the fairy, that doesn't make them a support class.....they ARE healers.

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

I didn't compare, nor did I hint to compare lustrate to benediction. I compare it to cure II.

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Lustrate still wins. MP wise, no cast time (Don't say swiftcast+Cure II *wink wink*), and mobility.
Side note : Scholar is Healer class, with a portion of supportive skill.

This troll thread is too good, it's destroying my brain cells.

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Originally Posted by RegnumMagik

This troll thread is too good, it's destroying my brain cells.

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I guess it put us Sch hackles up, being told by a bard no less, that we are support :p Just as well he's not on our server when he plays "archer" (pet name for a bad bard), that pulls everything...I'd enjoy watching his health disappear as I played support :)