What is an 'Elitist'

Is it just me or does this seem directed as a flame thread?
Anyways elitist is someone who is "better" than others and usually spends more time in game (which may be why they may be better?).
Usually low patience towards unskilled, usually low error tolerance.
View games as a job, with faster completion being better (which really shouldn't matter, since they are only making time to waste it elsewhere in game; a waste of time is a waste of time).
Well that's my opinion on Elitism :)

In the context of this game and this forum, and "elitist" is - IMHO - anyone who uses the word 'bads' as a noun for players not as good as they are, anyone who talks as if the majority of players have cleared coil and farm EX primals, anyone who uses the acronym 'L2P', and there are probably more ways to illustrate what an elitist is here, but these 3 answers should be enough.

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Originally Posted by Rizzo_

I've seen the word thrown around too many times and different people give different views. So I wanted to know what do you guys view as an elitist?

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One who checks people gear and if doesn't meet their standard they leave without giving them a chance.
One who thinks they tanked the whole party to the end.
One who says their dps is the best.
One who says everyone cause them to die except himself but dies first.
One who has to have best gear and gear is everything.

In an mmo community it sometimes but rarely means group that take that stride beyond everyone else, ff 14 example being the people who beat T9 I guess 1st ( or indeed, any1 who has beat it so far, as I'm sure there is no guides ). This would be a positive, complimenting connotation of the word. Nobody else could even begin to claim this elitism really. Elitism should be very very rare, almost non existent. What fraction of ff14 players have beaten T9?

But its most often used as a negative insult to throw at people, most often thrown at people who wish a certain level of play from their party. It's also thrown at people who condone parsers and any1 who is critical of other peoples play. The people who would get offended by being criticised by these people would throw the term "elitist" in an attempt to hurt the ppl offering criticism.

To be honest from years of playing FPS and MMO and other types of online games, they don't help, they think they know it all, they have best gear but die, they pay top gil for help and think they are the best because they bought the best gear, in shooters the same, they think their ratio is so godly they mention it everyday, they tend to rub in their kills in peoples faces and a lot of other stuff here is my ladder.
(Elites) Not helpful think they are good blame everyone they suck.
(hardcore) really good at game helpful gives tips spends time on 1 job moves to the next.
(gamer) almost like the hardcore but a dum down version.
(casual) likes to play the game but takes time enjoys everything.

Apparently I'm not an elitist because I chose a Spell Speed build for my WHM and got yelled at in a DF party that I should have gone with a Det build, how Det is the only logical choice, how Spell Speed exists on gear just so the community has something to ignore, etc.

Gotta love kids these days.

As many have already said.

An "elitist" can be described as someone who is generally better at content than others, but it can also be someone who is good and/or thinks they are because they have more shiney stuff than you do and thus feel they are better.

My personal take on it is this - if someone has to tell you they're better than you. Then they really arent. Either people can see your ability because it's there or it's not and they want to convince you otherwise.

There are no elitists in this game; the word means nothing. The reason people get snippy with each other in PUGs is because PUGs have a high fail rate which leads to frustration and some people don't know how to cope with frustration and take it out on others. Being a jerk and having terrible manners is a completely separate thing from being an elitist.

I'm surprised that my definition of elitist seems different from everyone else's. I thought it was well established that en "Elitist" person is simply someone who is intolerant or discriminant of those who are less skilled, geared, and/or experienced.

For example, people who leave a primal group after a single failed attempt, regardless of the fact that it was a "good" attempt. Or someone who leaves a party because someone with bad gear joins.

Truth be told, I think anyone who goes to party finder and creates a group with an absurd and unnecessarily high item level requirement is elitist. I shall admit tho, I am guilty of a few of these.

Nothing elitist about creating a party finder with an item level. (maybe unless that item level is higher than their own) Party finder exists for the purpose of finding specific types of players to play with. If an i95 wants to use it to find other i95 players, it's working as intended.