Leviathan Extreme Mirror Drop Rate Too Low

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Originally Posted by Gardes

Better than people turning away because they think it's a waste of time.

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If you don't do it because you think it's a waste of time, then you're guaranteed not to get a mirror. It's supposed to take a long time because it's an ilv 100 weapon. You can either farm for Animus, or farm for a mirror. SE designed the mirror drop rate in order to keep the highest amount of people doing Leviathan, so "hardcore" players don't spam it, get whatever mirrors they need, and stop doing the fight altogether. It's not supposed to be easy to get, and it takes time. It's also worth mentioning that Levi is not even a hard fight, so it's not like joining a Titan PF and having a low rate of success.

You want one of the best weapons in the game? Ok!

You complain that you need to work for it? Either deal with it or look for something else to do.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Yes. It's far too low. Too low for me to bother grinding. I'm not going to try for something unless I have a decent chance. Instead of a 2% drop, it should be 10%.

Atma has a low drop rate but if it drops then there's a 100% chance you will get it. Not true with mirror. You have a 1/8 chance. Grind for a 2% drop then a 12.5% chance of actually winning it. I don't think so, Square. I don't think so.

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The mirror may have a low drop rate, and you may have to compete with others, but you only need one mirror. There's a 100% chance that an atma dropped will be yours, but you need to gather 12, and THEN do the books. 10% will make people not do Leviathan faster than now because everyone and their mothers will have a mirror, which will limit the number of people farming the fight and increase queue/wait times. An ilv100 weapon should not be a week to a month-long process. ilv 100 is third best weapon ilv in the game, and should take time to acquire it, like it does now.

Yep. You're right. The drop rate is abysmal. I just farmed the wave weapons when the patch came out and called it with Leviathan Extreme. The i5 level difference is not really worth it for the amount of time you would potentially need.
I still do Leviathan from time to time when I need a bit of soldiery to reach cap and don't feel like running a dungeon or do a couple of runs for a change of pace from the Brayflox grinds. If I get a mount or a mirror then good, but no way I'm wasting my time farming them.

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Originally Posted by Kimikryo

You want one of the best weapons in the game? Ok!

You complain that you need to work for it? Either deal with it or look for something else to do.

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Best weapons in the game? You mean behind High Allagan, Zodiac, and Relic Novus? Also, Relic Animus and Worn Zodiac are equivalent.

There are 5 weapons at least as good or better than tidal weapons, that's not "one of the best weapons in the game" by any stretch of the imagination.

The whole appeal of getting an animus was to continue upgrading it in the future. Tidal was a dead end path. You get your 100 and that's far as you go. You can't upgrade it anymore.

Animus was a long term investment and a much smarter choice to go with.

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Originally Posted by Odett

SE designed the mirror drop rate in order to keep the highest amount of people doing Leviathan, so "hardcore" players don't spam it, get whatever mirrors they need, and stop doing the fight altogether.

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Except from what I've observed in-game is that a lot of more hardcore players have given up up trying to get mirrors because the drop rate is so low. During the first month after leviathan was released, there were lots of farm groups up trying to get mirrors, but even before Leviathan was on DF, farm groups were rare - Lots of people have i95 wave weapons, but it is incredibly uncommon to see anyone with the i100 wave weapons in the cities, so with the rarity of both active groups and people with the weapons, it seems the majority have in fact given up.

Related, how often do you see players going back to older primals to try to farm for mounts? It happens, but the drop rate there isn't nearly high enough to entice most skilled players to go back either.

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Originally Posted by KerenRhys

And Ramuh's weapons have been announced as rare drops. So, it seems like we'll have as much chance to obtain a Ramuh's weapon as we currently have to obtain a mirror or a primal mount. I'm so looking forward to it...

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Even if Ramuh weapons are rare drop, depending on your farm party, you won't have anyone to loot against when it does drop.

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

Best weapons in the game? You mean behind High Allagan, Zodiac, and Relic Novus? Also, Relic Animus and Worn Zodiac are equivalent.

There are 5 weapons at least as good or better than tidal weapons, that's not "one of the best weapons in the game" by any stretch of the imagination.

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Zodiac is part of the relic quest. I believe you mean Gerolt since you specify Worn Zodiac (which I can only assume you mean Weathered Gerolt Masterworks weapon).

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

Best weapons in the game? You mean behind High Allagan, Zodiac, and Relic Novus? Also, Relic Animus and Worn Zodiac are equivalent.

There are 5 weapons at least as good or better than tidal weapons, that's not "one of the best weapons in the game" by any stretch of the imagination.

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so there are only 5 Weapons that are as good or better, and if I remember right, only novus and high allagan are better so its 2 weapons that are better .. so in all there are 6 endgame weapons to aim for including this one.

And you are picking "raisins" not remotely seeing point of what I am saying.

OK shorter

You want something that is rare? Either deal with it being rare or stop attempting to get it.