Duty Finder for DD

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

Seeing as there are 9 jobs, the correct solution is 5 DPS, 2 tank, 2 healer parties. Even if everyone chose every job evenly (i.e. no more BLM than PLD) the fact that there are more DPS jobs to chose from than tanks and healers to choose from combines, it's not a really a player problem. In fact it would be better if they just removed one of the DPS roles, (such as MNK) and we would get even queue times given the scenario above.

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Absolutely not. That is probably the worst suggestion I've seen yet...

How about I switch my original post to say "ANY class that waits longer than 30 minutes gets a xp boost or gil reward"

Switch classes? That's your solution? And if I don't like it, the long queue is MY fault? With that logic why not build a game that doesn't load and if you don't like it, play something else. Same argument.

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

Seeing as there are 9 jobs, the correct solution is 5 DPS, 2 tank, 2 healer parties. Even if everyone chose every job evenly (i.e. no more BLM than PLD) the fact that there are more DPS jobs to chose from than tanks and healers to choose from combines, it's not a really a player problem. In fact it would be better if they just removed one of the DPS roles, (such as MNK) and we would get even queue times given the scenario above.

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And yet they are adding more DPS roles.

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Originally Posted by RoxasXIII

Absolutely not. That is probably the worst suggestion I've seen yet...

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Just showing the obvious reason why we would have this problem even in perfect class distribution.

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Originally Posted by UBERHAXED

Seeing as there are 9 jobs, the correct solution is 5 DPS, 2 tank, 2 healer parties. Even if everyone chose every job evenly (i.e. no more BLM than PLD) the fact that there are more DPS jobs to chose from than tanks and healers to choose from combines, it's not a really a player problem. In fact it would be better if they just removed one of the DPS roles, (such as MNK) and we would get even queue times given the scenario above.

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Actually, the "correction" would be to remove a tank spot, so there wouldn't be a shortage.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Time to level a Healer or Tank class maybe, and if you answer is, but I don't want to, then you only have yourself to blame.

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And yet we have a shortage of tanks. Wonder why that is? The players are to blame like you say? Or something in game?

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Originally Posted by Tirabi

How about I switch my original post to say "ANY class that waits longer than 30 minutes gets a xp boost or gil reward"

Switch classes? That's your solution? And if I don't like it, the long queue is MY fault? With that logic why not build a game that doesn't load and if you don't like it, play something else. Same argument.

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Should be opposite, if DPS have to wait for a long time, then a gil boost should be given to new tanks or healers that queue - whatever is lacking so you can actually... uh... get in.

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Originally Posted by Tirabi

Actually, the "correction" would be to remove a tank spot, so there wouldn't be a shortage.

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Hmm.. 5 dps roles 2 tanks, 2 healers
3 man parties: 2 dps, 1 healer -> healer shortage, ratio is 5:2
7 man parties: 4 dps, 1 tank, 2 healers -> healer shortage, ratio is 1:1 for H:T, 2:5 for H:DPS; secondarily DPS shortage ratio is 5:2 for DPS:T

Not sure where you learned your math.

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Originally Posted by Tirabi

And yet we have a shortage of tanks. Wonder why that is? The players are to blame like you say? Or something in game?

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All MMO's are the same, Tanking is probably the most stressful role you can play and is also the first people will blame when something goes wrong.

On the other hand DPS is probably the easier role to play and has the least effect on the party unless you are facing end game content.

It's just as simple as the path of least resistance.

Since you are arcanist - unlock the scholar soul. An overgeared scholar can dps most of time in roulette dungeons except cemi-speedruns, and queues are usually instant (sometimes 1-2 min).
A joke about dps (who always have the majority in any team).
Wipe2, wipe2 (lacking dps on heart/nails/whatever) - team has 10-20% echo, tank/healer gets bored and makes a vote dismiss for some random member. DPS click without thinking and instantly get into another 40 min queue because with party not full tanks/healers can leave without a penalty and insta join a new group.
For dps: long queues are result of only your decisions, so either accept them or decide better next time.