'Up in Arms' - Atma - The new Hamlet 2.0 Time Sync

Hate FATEs? Want challenge instead?

Do Second Coil and get those endgame weapons...

The devs are giving players a choice.


Sheesh ppl...

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

Hate FATEs? Want challenge instead?

Do Second Coil and get those endgame weapons...

The devs are giving players a choice. Sheesh ppl...

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Some people want to upgrade their relic. It isn't a choice. There is only one way to do it.
And the way to do it is moronic. The game is suppose to be fun, not boring. I would rather fold laundry. And I am serious.

Anytime when the way to progress in a patch, with supposedly new content, is by doing old content ad nauseam it shows a lack of imagination on the people putting out the content.

Well i just spend about 5 hours doing fates without one single drop. And i mean 5 hours non stop fates with other people, No offense but this is boring as hell so far... and you need 12?! jesus

Four hours grinding and not one drop. I don't even mind doing low level fates but it's not even remotely fun or entertaining to have RNG take over. One guy in my party had been farming 7 hours and nothing dropped and he was getting really down about it, constantly thinking he had done something wrong some how.

I get why they've made the relic weapon not come from doing hard fights: because they're worried about less skilled people being locked out of content. But do you think the more casual players are really going to spend hours farming fates when they have limit time to play anyway?

I don't mind it taking a long time to get my relic weapon, but over 4 hours of level 4 fates isn't entertaining or fun :<

Shame the weapon will just remind me of farming fates now - not doing cool fights

This patch, with the quests being so utterly poorly thought out, and the main scenario being so dull - running back and forth for about an hour just to get to Leviathan?

Most of all, the Relic upgrading quest. This is a HORRIFIC piece of bad design. I want to upgrade my relic, but this quest is a joke so unfunny that it makes me openly hostile towards the game.

You need to increase the drop rates of Atma pieces, at the VERY least. At the moment, I'm contemplating just giving up on the game for a while and seeing if a drop in subs will change your minds.
It really is testing

given the fact of emergency maintenance in 40min, I wouldn't be surprised if they tweak the fate drops. every single time they put anything in a fate, it never works the first two days, lol

that and hopefully (but unlikely) they will tweak the myth drops, since they suck, but who knows?

As for the atma farming, yea it sucks to do the fates, but hoping the next stage isn't as stupid

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Originally Posted by SkyRavenfield

stop complaining about everything, you should be happy cos not everyone will be able to get the new relics that fast now. If i remember back to FFXI it took you like 1 year+ to get a relic and it wasnt hard either. I think its good that it takes abit longer now there is allways time to do some fates while you wait for some decent groups in partyfinder for other stuff.

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Yeah, but in FFXI you were doing it for the best weapon BY FAR, the relic for this game is just ilvl100 and you can get other ilvl100 and 115 from other means.

Not bothered really about the quest, just you seriously can't compare the two.

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Originally Posted by zigholliday

Some people want to upgrade their relic. It isn't a choice. There is only one way to do it.
And the way to do it is moronic. The game is suppose to be fun, not boring. I would rather fold laundry. And I am serious.

Anytime when the way to progress in a patch, with supposedly new content, is by doing old content ad nauseam it shows a lack of imagination on the people putting out the content.

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The options are: Upgrade your relic to from ilvl90 to ilvl100 by grinding boring FATEs until your eyes fall out -OR- get any of the other new and vastly SUPERIOR weapons at lvl 100, 110, and 115 by doing real and serious endgame content. ** I can't believe this is even debatable.

The zodiac path is just an alternate path for soloists and casual players who don't have the time to dedicate to an endgame linkshell and likely will never get into the latest coil parties... If you think it takes too long to get it, then the content wasn't designed for you. (That, or you should be out grinding fates instead of whining on the forums lol)


Besides, as a FFXI veteran, I'm glad this game finally has serious barriers to gaining endgame items - even if they use FATE RNG to do it.

Bravo, SE :cool:

Zantetsuken doesn't really seem to get the point. Don't tell people what stuff was and wasn't designed for. You don't know and we don't know as we haven't been told. All we know is that the Zodiac weapons were meant to be upgraded over time.

You come across as someone who suffers from "But I raid all the hard stuff and he gets gear almost as good" syndrome.

What does it matter? If you just raid hard stuff for the loot, then perhaps you're the one who need to look at gating your own progression, because you sound like a spoiled child.

I'm not sure they are trying to keep people playing this game or away, steal the kill from those low level players FATE, stay on the same map hours and hours and you don't even know when it's going to drop or never, people want some funny stuff, not this type of boring content, I smell the same developing strategy like Old FFXIV, I really hoping your not going to re-reborn if your developer starting developing the game toward this direction. Player like to have New Area to explore New Area to adventure, we already done so much FATE on those same looking map when we leveling 1-50, now you want us done the same thing again? if you want people keep paying you monthly fee you should provide more funning exciting content not this type boring FATE over and over again... .....