"If you die twice, you're out"

If you don't like the rules don't join them. Easy as that :)

But on a personal note I stopped joining groups like that for the most part because like other people have stated most leaders don't follow their own rules.

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Originally Posted by Hitome

If I am playing with a very limited amount of time or know that I will need to kill something 20+ times in one day for a moderate chance at an item, I don't want these players in my group. I just want people there who have done it so many times that it just becomes a dance to them just like it is to me.

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Circle jerk complex?

I have only played this game for only a few days but in my years of playing MMO's I have never seen such a thing before. Why has the MMO community grown so sour? What ever happened to community and adventuring where we learned from our mistakes and continued on?

Man I miss those days.

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Originally Posted by Delsai

I have only played this game for only a few days but in my years of playing MMO's I have never seen such a thing before. Why has the MMO community grown so sour? What ever happened to community and adventuring where we learned from our mistakes and continued on?

Man I miss those days.

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Welcome to FFXIV, don't get the picture wrong & don't let these people label us bad, a lot of players are nice and still enjoy hanging around with each other. I'd help you if I was on your server.

And to reply to your question, thanks to WoW.

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Originally Posted by Gandora

Welcome to FFXIV, don't get the picture wrong & don't let these people label us bad, a lot of players are nice and still enjoy hanging around with each other. I'd help you if I was on your server.

And to reply to your question, thanks to WoW.

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A thread like this for a new player is kind of eye opening. Makes you /sigh when you start to near end game content.

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Originally Posted by Delsai

I have only played this game for only a few days but in my years of playing MMO's I have never seen such a thing before. Why has the MMO community grown so sour? What ever happened to community and adventuring where we learned from our mistakes and continued on?

Man I miss those days.

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That's not about not letting other learning from mistakes, it's that you want to play with player that are already experienced and are not here to train.

If you are a new player to do a primal in PF you have to do multiple things
1)Read and/or watch a video of the fight to learn more or less what you have to do
2)Register in DF to get a first sighting of the fight and get some experience.
3)Make a Training party in DF ( there are multiples, for example on Titan EX training before heart or training after heart )
4)When you trained enough to master the fight you can make a Kill party where you play only with players that are experienced and kill the boss

Except some people skip part 3 and join parties for the kill while they don't master it and want to get carried, what happens => they make other people wipe, force them to remake parties again and again, so you have to scare those guys with the kick.
Most of the parties only kick if you dies where you shouldn't if you are experienced ( usually on Titan EX if you die after heart it's not such a big deal because it's really hard and you don't get kick except if you really are the only one that keep dying during the fight )

I have every intention to perform well end game. I just find the two deaths and a blacklist really silly.

Why not pass a rez and continue?

You should get to the content we are talking about then you will see why there are strong attempts at QC in the party finder.

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Originally Posted by Delsai

I have every intention to perform well end game. I just find the two deaths and a blacklist really silly.

Why not pass a rez and continue?

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Because it takes multiples hours to master the fights and
because people are angry when you screw their things, it's the same as if you were doing a pretty drawing and then someone comes to burn it every time you are about to finish it, you kick him in the ass and try to avoid him as much as possible.

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Originally Posted by Delsai

I have only played this game for only a few days but in my years of playing MMO's I have never seen such a thing before. Why has the MMO community grown so sour? What ever happened to community and adventuring where we learned from our mistakes and continued on?

Man I miss those days.

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Is it really an adventure when you sit around in a lobby until you can go into an instance?