I'm sure it has been said many time before.... but...

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Originally Posted by Doo

Would be the right thing to do for the first timer to say I'll just watch it at the inn since the group wants to SR or I can leave and find another group that wants to watch every cutscene. You guys gotta get out of your single player mmo mindset. Group > individual.

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If you are doing a dungeon through Duty Finder.

Do.

Not.

Expect.

A speed run.

Especially in a dungeon that is literally for the end of 2.0's story. I honestly can't tell if people are trolling or being genuine anymore, so I'll assume it's either a bit of both or the latter.

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Originally Posted by Doo

Would be the right thing to do for the first timer to say I'll just watch it at the inn since the group wants to SR or I can leave and find another group that wants to watch every cutscene. You guys gotta get out of your single player mmo mindset. Group > individual.

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You can turn around and say it the other way too. You want a SR you can make a premade, no ifs ands or buts. I've watched so many derps wipe because they thought I was on board their stupid little 'sr', I'd go and aggro the boss after some a-hole whm aggroed it to start the countdown, let the scrub ot take it, run out back to where to two or three newbs are, /popcorn remember 'group > individual' :P

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

If you are doing a dungeon through Duty Finder.

Do.

Not.

Expect.

A speed run.

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I do what the group wants. If I queue into WP with new players, then I'll slow it down. If I queued into a group that knows it already, then it's a speed run. I don't know why players are acting like victims or something horrible. You can watch the cs later.

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Originally Posted by SpookyGhost

If you are doing a dungeon through Duty Finder.

Do.

Not.

Expect.

A speed run.

Especially in a dungeon that is literally for the end of 2.0's story. I honestly can't tell if people are trolling or being genuine anymore, so I'll assume it's either a bit of both or the latter.

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In Doo's case I'd say he's just taken an e-course on basic Trolling. I'd give him a C- at this point.

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Originally Posted by Hotfoot

As I said, I don't think it's your fault. SE implemented this to make people like you more inclined to help people like me. Except you give in to your need for tomes and use the excuse of repetition.

If repetition is that painful to you, why play an MMO at all? Takes nothing to wait a few moments for people watching cut scenes. Even if you do have to do it every time.

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The problem with Castrum and Prae being, they each have 12 cutscenes. Waiting for people to watch them all in their entirety adds at a minimum 35 minutes to the run. This is a good long time for people to stand around with their hands in their pockets.

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Originally Posted by Damifino

The problem with Castrum and Prae being, they each have 12 cutscenes. Waiting for people to watch them all in their entirety adds at a minimum 35 minutes to the run. This is a good long time for people to stand around with their hands in their pockets.

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Which I fully understand and I consider it to be a broken implementation, made worse by the impatient detritus of the community. Implementing a separation mechanic and offering over-geared 50s the chance to earn more tomes, the title of <CareMaster> or something, and a rare pet after, say, 50 runs - would result in (hopefully) everybody being happy. Speed runners can speed run, those who are a bit more community minded can help new level 50s who want to watch the cut scenes, and are compensated for the additional time spent with additional rewards.

Simple.

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Originally Posted by Damifino

The problem with Castrum and Prae being, they each have 12 cutscenes. Waiting for people to watch them all in their entirety adds at a minimum 35 minutes to the run. This is a good long time for people to stand around with their hands in their pockets.

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Alright, so, maybe I'm missing something here as I only ran CM back when you had to for Darklight, but:

If people run Prae/CM for Spirit Bonding, why don't they go in with a pre-made? Why would you go through Duty Finder, the usual way people progressing through the story will choose? Are people genuinely expecting everyone to just gogogo because they've got to Spirit Bond asap? Wouldn't it be a million times faster to go in with a pre-made regardless? Why take the risk of some people not knowing what they're doing?

It just seems really counter-productive to do this... for literally everyone in the party.

Their remedy to your "problem" was the implementation of the party finder and commendation system. Nobody should ever queue into a duty finder full of strangers and expect a speed run or a run with people patient enough to let you watch every single CS. If you want a guarantee on either, you should form your own party finder group to your specifications.

Splitting up players is not the way to go and would make queue times extremely bad, something that SE was thankfully smart enough to see.

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Originally Posted by Lumiin

I thought those were just bads?

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Sorta, bads covers a larger range, and noob originally was a hell of a lot more derogatory than it is now.

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Originally Posted by Lumiin

I struggle with basic logic.

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2 FC tanks. Good luck pulling with your caster, unless you switch to tank and go elsewhere.

Problem solved. Try harder.