CT Noobs

oh look, someone in full allagan calling people noobs, very refreshing

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Originally Posted by AideLee

Here is progression in my head... and it is the path I took for my bard and monk.

AK/WP/HM --> DL/relic --> CT --> Coil


I have seen many noobs in CT that

AF/AK/WP --> CT


I know some people will argue with this... but clearly not having relic or even DL will show in CT boss fights.

1. Low HP - you are more likely to get one shotted
2. Low DPS
3. Less experienced...

I bet if you throw these noobs at titan, they will fail miserably.

I have final two points.

1. Learn/Research CT before you jump in because ppl don't like carrying you noobs.
2. Stop whatever you are doing with green icon on your noobish head and place the damn comets outside of the ring and not on the path to the tower.

Oh one more final... stop sucking... CT is not hard. If you don't know the mechanics or if you don't have DL and relic stay the hell away because you are wasting other people's time.

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Cool story bro!..

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Originally Posted by Amyas

DL and relic for CT?

Sounds like the real 'noob' here is the one that needs to overgear by like 20 ilvls to clear content...

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I was watching a stream the other day, of a player that had a bunch of coil gear, making fun of players wanting to do CT and not having Relic +1. O_o

There is no reason to enter Coil / CT / HM Titan in anything less than full Darklight armor now. At the very least, all your armor pieces should be Darklight, the jewelry doesn't matter so much, and your weapon should be at least Moggle Mog.

Yes, you can get away with AK gear, but why? Why would you want to drag your party members down by coming in with less than Darklight? Its completely selfish and illogical in my book. As someone who was competing for server firsts at launch I know that the content can be completed with less than Darklight but at this point you have no excuse except just your own impatience or ignorance.

You can get full Darklight now quite easily in a shorter period of time now. Having the Darklight first will make getting your Relic easier. Getting a relic weapon first doesn't make your Darklight grind any shorter. The endgame, CT/Coil, are once a week lockouts, so there shouldn't be a rush to do that content until you have at least full Darklight armor. The extra hp,defense and stats will only increase you and your group's chances of success, and it really isn't asking much of you to run a few CM/Praetoriums. You cannot rely on your item to drop in Coil.

More often than not, the ungeared players expect the geared players to carry them, and they try to justify their lack of gear by being grouped with extremely well geared players. It isn't fair nor is it fun to run into this type of noob. You see people who have spent 1+ hours wiping to Coil / CT / Titan HM, then you examine them and realize they're not even full Darklight, its extremely discouraging because they could have spent that time gearing themselves out more, and saved you all the headaches of wiping.

Yes, I know that all the content in the game is ez blah blah, doesn't change the fact that you should have all your Darklight armor before you begin the endgame. Not that I'm condoning this, but at least in CT you can get away with hiding in the crowd. CT can be completed with 16-18 people easily. But yeah in HM Titan / Coil, its way less reasonable to not have full Darklight armor.

Anybody who uses the term noob with any sort of seriousness loses any respect from me.

I bet you go into low level duty roulette in i90 gear and get pissy if someone doesn't know a fight.

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Originally Posted by AideLee

Really? Relic is absolutely equals to experience.

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While back then getting your relic the legit way was indeed a proof of experience, i know for fact that half of the relics you see nowadays are from carry runs.

How do i know ?
I sold hundreds of Titan HM runs or full relics quests and still do even after patch.
I can tell you about 8/10 of my customers never survived past P3 in Titan yet are now hanging around with relic(s).

Unless you have a valid way to see if the guy you're inspecting has been carried or not, dont rely on relics as proof of experience.

PS: People are starting to sell EX carry runs, so dont expect to see EX weapons as a proof of experience either.

From my own experience, every single time people fail CT, it's because they don't understand the raid, every single time!
It's not because the gear.

just because someone has poor gear doesn't mean they have poor skill. many like me have fully geared mains and even first alts so in order to get something actually useful they go with poor geared classes. for example post 2.1 I get one il90 weapon per week so there is zero reason for me to get a relic and waste 900 phil stones on it which I can use to buy mats, gear up my nth alt etc.

point is if they pass the ilvl check of the dungeon they are gonna be fine.

I completed CT wearing Christmas chess and commendations crown :D

CT is easy, too easy.

On Behemoth, using WHM is...cast medica II, hide back the comet, medica II, hide and loot.

The main problem is... we are playing CT 3 weeks and explanations need 10 minutes :(

Vegeta, what does the scouter say about OP's elitist jerk attitude?

Well.. you know.