I foresee summoners getting kicked out of static groups.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

Hmm... 2 blm's is preferred now, not even considering the incoming patch. BLM are crazy DPS and even more so after the patch.

TBH, I have been playing since launch and haven't seen a single smn in a bcb static group. Our FC doesn't even have a DPS SMN. What SMN's we do have, they are sch's and they don't dps, ever. And of the other smn's we do have they only go SMN to SR wp/ak.

Just saying, they were in a bad spot before this nerf, now they are in a really bad spot.

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Welcome to the Final fantasy community of know nothing know-it-alls...

Smn was in a bad spot... HAHA

If people preferred a BLM over a SMN before this patch then they are really clueless about dps jobs.

On a plus side we lose thunder but pick up blizzard so for wp speed runs we can put up our dots hit bane and then just spam the hell out of blizzard rinse repeat

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Originally Posted by FMElan

99% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

...Including that one.

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"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Mark Twain.

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Originally Posted by Linadae

I had friends in wow kick me from a raid static because I was 800dps too low...trust me it happens. People loose their minds over the prospect of Leet gear.

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That must've been at least in Wrath since 800 dps was a lot back then.

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Originally Posted by Pavise

That must've been at least in Wrath since 800 dps was a lot back then.

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lol , nowadays DPS are doing like 400k :O is scary how numbers jumped in wow .....i remember doing a 1000+ crit back then :D ....now ? if u dont crit for over 1M....meh....

Statics are most certainly not the situation in which I would be concerned for a SMN having a place post update. It was generally accepted among those who were into the mathy side of things that the class was fairly potent in its original state and while the loss of Thunder does sting a little bit, it is nothing that cant be adapted to in the long run. The ones you have to worry about are the pug players who will try to fit in with the perceived flavor of the month in terms of efficiency rather than broadening their horizons and doing a little research so that there aren't ridiculously asinine restrictions that SMNs may have to endure when playing in unfamiliar groups(you can liken it to the small stigma MNK had early on and such, or the cries of BRD being top dps when it wasn't particularly close to the top roost, though I digress...)

Mah.. the spell didn't work with bane anyway.. NEXT!!!!

Off-topic: Yamimarik, how did you become a hyur again? O.o

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Originally Posted by Gooner_iBluAirJGR

I didn't realize thunder was so powerful. . .

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Its not, people just need something to cry about;

If you are in a static and you think that it will kick you because your class got nerfed, you shoud leave that static in the first place.