Post-Split, Caduceus keeps killing my pet :(

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Originally Posted by Whippet

I haven't read kris post but you don't know much about effieincy ever because fairies react faster on place then heel

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Why do people keep saying this?

NO ONE SHOULD LET THEIR PET AUTO-CAST EMBRACE.

You should be manually using Embrace 24/7.

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Originally Posted by Garnatian

Why do people keep saying this?

NO ONE SHOULD LET THEIR PET AUTO-CAST EMBRACE.

You should be manually using Embrace 24/7.

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Placed auto-cast is sufficient for nearly everything. Manualspam Embrace also removes the option for Eos's Whispering Dawn on command (though to be fair, WD isn't really that vital on content that you might want to spam Embrace, and Selene exists).

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Originally Posted by Garnatian

Why do people keep saying this?

NO ONE SHOULD LET THEIR PET AUTO-CAST EMBRACE.

You should be manually using Embrace 24/7.

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No you should not, having her on place and let her use her embrace is the best thing you can do

At least you get more time to nuke/heal other and just have to check your fairy once per minute (selene) or 2( for EOS) depending if shes on obey or stready


Making her use embrace automaticly will not ruin your PT


ALSO placing her closes to the tank will let her mostly heal the tank since the others are to far which will be more efficient to the party

DD doesn't need cure most of the time, just make the WHM regen them and kthxbye

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Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez

Manualspam Embrace also removes the option for Eos's Whispering Dawn on command .

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No, it does not.

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Originally Posted by Whippet

No you should not, having her on place and let her use her embrace is the best thing you can do

At least you get more time to nuke/heal other and just have to check your fairy once per minute (selene) or 2( for EOS) depending if shes on obey or stready


Making her use embrace automaticly will not ruin your PT


ALSO placing her closes to the tank will let her mostly heal the tank since the others are to far which will be more efficient to the party

DD doesn't need cure most of the time, just make the WHM regen them and kthxbye

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No, it's not. Less healing, pure and simple.

This isn't a case of not being able to do those things, it's a case of you not being good enough to do those things on top of manually using Embrace.

This is what we call laziness.

You know what else allows her to heal the Tank? That's right, manual healing.

I cannot imagine being even a remotely good healer by leaving my fairy to auto-heal whoever she pleases, her AI simply isn't that good. Maybe it was okay back when we couldn't control her while casting, but now there's no excuse. It gives you far more flexibility on who should be healed, as well as allowing you to precast heals.

On a boss like Caduceus, yes, I want her to be healing the tank even when they're at full health as it allows me to heal them that much sooner after they take damage. If I waited for her to decide when to start healing, the tank is likely to suffer another hit before she's done, which is something you don't want when fighting a boss that's capable of dealing 50-70% of the tank's health in damage in less than a second.

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Originally Posted by Garnatian

This is what we call laziness.

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Manual control was nowhere near the same efficiency as AI control. u should noticed the tiny delay before the skill button can respond to ur press after recast. Hence ur manual embrace actually has a recast for about 3.5-4sec, not 3. AI control has no such issue at all, it doesnt even need to wait for the button light up. But usually u dont need to worry about this except some extreme cases. So do what ever u like. But this has nothing to do with placing ur pet or not as u can still manual control after placed it if it try to be lazy.

For what I mean efficiency, I wast talking about the control efficiency only. As I mentioned above, there's 2 fight u should place ur pet(or I will prefer a must). At demon wall, if u have noticed, the middle AOE gives heavy but the side AOE gives slow. And slow increased cast and recast time significantly. u should always place ur pet in the middle to avoid getting slow or u just asking trouble for like wasting ur time and MP to patch up the healing lost instead of help DPS it down. In the BC fight, u should place ur pet to let the AI auto respond area cover most of the activity area. Unless u have an decent group which can kick its ass like cakewalk, ur not so freely to turn ur attention to heal other ppl and need to relay on AI healing. Beside that, place it in the middle of the zone to guarantee as much of ppl get its buff as u can.

Its optional to place ur pet in usual, but saying it's 24/7 is exaggerating.

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Originally Posted by Espon

I cannot imagine being even a remotely good healer by leaving my fairy to auto-heal whoever she pleases, her AI simply isn't that good.

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I did actually tested it in AK. I watched it and myself never cast a single healing on tank except BOSS fight. Tank HP never dropped below 70% mostly. In some cases tank did get to low HP(less than 1/3), but it healed up eventually and never let tank die.

Proven that by placing it, AI does become more reliable.

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Originally Posted by Krisstina

Manual control was nowhere near the same efficiency as AI control. u should noticed the tiny delay before the skill button can respond to ur press after recast. Hence ur manual embrace actually has a recast for about 3.5-4sec, not 3. AI control has no such issue at all, it doesnt even need to wait for the button light up. But usually u dont need to worry about this except some extreme cases. So do what ever u like. But this has nothing to do with placing ur pet or not as u can still manual control after placed it if it try to be lazy.

For what I mean efficiency, I wast talking about the control efficiency only. As I mentioned above, there's 2 fight u should place ur pet(or I will prefer a must). At demon wall, if u have noticed, the middle AOE gives heavy but the side AOE gives slow. And slow increased cast and recast time significantly. u should always place ur pet in the middle to avoid getting slow or u just asking trouble for like wasting ur time and MP to patch up the healing lost instead of help DPS it down. In the BC fight, u should place ur pet to let the AI auto respond area cover most of the activity area. Unless u have an decent group which can kick its ass like cakewalk, ur not so freely to turn ur attention to heal other ppl and need to relay on AI healing. Beside that, place it in the middle of the zone to guarantee as much of ppl get its buff as u can.

Its optional to place ur pet in usual, but saying it's 24/7 is exaggerating.

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Pointless post as that talk of "delay" is complete rubbish.

Only fights you should be placing your Fairy are fights where there is an extreme amount of movement, otherwise you'll see no appreciable difference.

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Originally Posted by Garnatian

Pointless post as that talk of "delay" is complete rubbish.

Only fights you should be placing your Fairy are fights where there is an extreme amount of movement, otherwise you'll see no appreciable difference.

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When continuously healing is needed, this so called rubbish talk delay gonna lower ur pets healing ability by about 15%.

Put the fairy somewhere not too close to tank, but still can take buffs from fairy. Also, the main reason to Place your fairy is because if you move even a bit, the fairy will follow you and that means losing some milliseconds or even a second of healing. I place my fairy every fight, so I can be flexible to move everywhere I want while fairy still keeps healing ppl.

And yes, cast embrace manually, even when your tank's HP is full, in caduceus fight (and some boss fight), pre-casting healing means you can heal your tank's HP as soon as they HP is reduced, just careful not to overheal.

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Originally Posted by Krisstina

I did actually tested it in AK. I watched it and myself never cast a single healing on tank except BOSS fight. Tank HP never dropped below 70% mostly. In some cases tank did get to low HP(less than 1/3), but it healed up eventually and never let tank die.

Proven that by placing it, AI does become more reliable.

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We're not talking about AK, the OP is asking about Caduceus. I don't want my fairy to start casting at later against a boss that can melee + hood swing combo for an insane amount of damage with a few stacks.

And I never said anything about not placing the fairy.