"You need Voice Chat to do Coil"

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Originally Posted by Aerostein

Sadly, that's the cold reality of it. Anyone who believes otherwise isn't paying attention to what it is going on in this community.

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Adding to the fact that they believed VC would be damaging, that just makes us look even more gimped. Having an option to both enable and disable the feature would have been a more sound approach compared to removing it entirely.

We require voice chat for our raids because it makes it easier and we are to lazy to type. If you don't have the ability to get it, we just don't run with you. I also don't do favors for people on PS3. The second someone says "PS3 and I can't do that" is when they just don't run with us. I don't care if people are on PS3, but only if they are capable of doing everything the people on PC can do and vice versa (except I haven't found any advantage the ps3 has over a PC). We have 2 or 3 guys on PS3 in our BCB group and 1 of them is a tank, but all 3 of them get on voice chat. All 3 of them have pc's or tablets they use for voice chat. If you run a line out from the PS3 to the line in on a PC with a decent sound card you can hook your headset up to your PC and hear the voice chat and the sound from the ps3 on the same head set and hook the mic jack up to the PC to talk.

You can also buy a head set splitter so you can hook it up to multiple audio sources.

http://www.lunashops.com/goods.php?id=1103

Using one of those you can plug into two audio sources with one set of headphones and run the mic wire to w/e you are talking on. And you can get a USB foot pedal to use as your push to talk key, which is what I do. If I want to talk but am moving and in complex stuff I just step on it with my foot and I can talk.

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Originally Posted by randomrope

I'm guessing you either got picked up in Rev's Toll through shouts or used the DF to join a group that is either an FC or a LS. Those are the people that made voice a requirement not SE, and that was your luck. I have never got into a DF pug where 8 random ppl all said that everyone has to be on their voice chat. That would be madness. Not everyone requires voice.

1.) If you join a FC or LS that requires voice and you cant use it then yes you are SOL
2.) Of course people need to study content that should be a given for any game.

Both are acceptable to me.

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I've never experienced this first hand but I know it's there and no not for any games, just games that require you to hold your own or you'll harm everyone. BC is also story related, what if I love the story and only want to play through the turns not for gear but lore. After working 9-5 why do players have to be subjected to work as hard at what should be entertainment?

Some of us are stoic I get that, you play through the pain. But you're not the only audience here. This option is not the best option IMO.

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Originally Posted by MisakiSatomi

You don't need voice chat if you know how to do it and you learn to do it by just doing it..

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Except for the times when people yell "looking for more for coil.. experienced only" :P

me personally i can do T1 - T3 with absolutely no need of voice chat, heck i don't ever even have to utter a word if i don't want to.

now T4 and T5 are a different story, not because they need voice chat, but because i have yet to do them so i cant speak on those turns.

As proven in this thread, the many accounts of people assuredly disregarding players who cannot use voice chat as an option and choosing to 100% neglect them could be a factor why SE thought it would be a good idea to leave it out of the game.

It's alright to degree to have your preference but simple chat can get the job done in a crunch. It is by no means 100% a must to have voice chat in this game, hence it not being function in it. It's the players attitudes that decide to not allow others join them because they have deemed them unworthy of there time.

A very sad truth how peoples heads turn for the worse towards one another in a video game meant for fun.

Mute/deaf people are out of luck of the bat aswell to be treated so poorly.

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Originally Posted by Abit

As proven in this thread, the many accounts of people assuredly disregarding players who cannot use voice chat as an option and choosing to 100% neglect them could be a factor why SE thought it would be a good idea to leave it out of the game.

It's alright to degree to have your preference but simple chat can get the job done in a crunch. It is by no means 100% a must to have voice chat in this game, hence it not being function in it. It's the players attitudes that decide to not allow others join them because they have deemed them unworthy of there time.

A very sad truth how peoples heads turn for the worse towards one another in a video game meant for fun.

Mute/deaf people are out of luck of the bat aswell to be treated so poorly.

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It's alright because blind people are in the same boat as well

you dont need Voice Chat to do coil at all, it usually helps but there are many people using VC that get distracted because of being chatting and putting less attention to the game itself :p .

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Originally Posted by Mezolitik

Didn't the developers say that voice chat was deliberately left out so that people wouldn't be pressured into using it? The same with PVP not forming part of the main story; it's too divisive. I read that somewhere.

Ergo, voice chat is probably a preference, rather than a requirement.

I, personally, would like the option.

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I recall it actually being said by Yoshi-P in one of the live letters before launch that it was something that should be used to actually succeed at end game, but they left it out of the game as it is too easy to harass people in voice (and have no record of it in a log) and that it is only really useful/needed for a small amount of content (and content that only a subset of players will even do) and more bad could come of it then actual good. same reason given for no tells in instances (something that is also very useful in raids w/o voice).

VC getting chatty is from lack of moderation. A good group in VC will block people from typing except the shot caller(s) and make a restricted channel just for the group that no one else is in.