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Originally Posted by Warlock

conflict with Garlemard
first goal of the empire is to stop the beast tribes
conquest is only secondary

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Here's the elaborate version on that:

Garlean Empire's motivation is "Primals are killing the planet, so we have to stop them. Unite under our banner to bring on an era of peace! If you go against us, this means you are aiding the beast tribes to destroy the planet and are our enemy." Thus, the conquest is only secondary in the sense that they don't want the land or the riches per se, but are focused on getting as much power as possible to get rid off the primals and their beast tribes.

Basically, we're both fighting for the same cause, but we don't want to unite with the Empire and lose our independence. Yoshida-san said he wants to keep this ambivalent relationship a little longer. Maybe it's a hint to a future alliance with the Empire?

Yoshida-san also said that of course, due to human nature, there are cases of aggression purely out of greed, too, so it's not like they're some kind of saints.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

Here's the elaborate version on that:

Garlean Empire's motivation is "Primals are killing the planet, so we have to stop them. Unite under our banner to bring on an era of peace! If you go against us, this means you are aiding the beast tribes to destroy the planet and are our enemy." Thus, the conquest is only secondary in the sense that they don't want the land or the riches per se, but are focused on getting as much power as possible to get rid off the primals and their beast tribes.

Basically, we're both fighting for the same cause, but we don't want to unite with the Empire and lose our independence. Yoshida-san said he wants to keep this ambivalent relationship a little longer. Maybe it's a hint to a future alliance with the Empire?

Yoshida-san also said that of course, due to human nature, there are cases of aggression purely out of greed, too, so it's not like they're some kind of saints.

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I agree with you and is possible that that was their original plan until Nael Van Darnus , In the final CS of "It kills with fire" he shows up and starts giving you a speech of joining forces and suddenly out of nowhere he shoots an attack of energy at you which even surprises the soldiers that are with him. Why attack me? i just did them a favor?

His Legion follow orders to attack us as well, and it only gets worse with the progress in the story to the point that he hates everyone equally quite different from the Black Wolf.

Also to justify Garlemald's doing they used to be the redhead step child of Hydaelin before the current Emperor made his appearance so all of what they did/do has a vibe of "Look what we are capable of now"

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

Q1: Does the sign in the Path of the Twelve foreshadow Bahamut's prison?

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At the risk of sounding like I'm pouring cold water on the issue, I submit that it is, from an artistic and design point of view, a natural progression.

ie; It's just a clock face. It's one of the most common motifs in existence.

I think (stress *think*) it more likely to be something that caught Yoshi's eye and gave him a steer with the direction as opposed to being right in from the start.

/eagerly awaiting Fern to crush me yet again...

Some story bits from the gamewatch interview, full post here

• Nael is dead. [Sounded pretty final, so no "coming back as omega weapon" etc]
• Gaius was just observing which party is going to fall, so he and his troops are unharmed. He is going to be our opponent for the time being.
• Crystal tower is related to the mystery behind the Allagan Empire, and is it's legacy.
• All of the 3 storylines are interwined somehow.
• Dalamud was a machine created by the Allagan Empire [so, it was not the same as the sealing ceremony Louisiox tried to perform!]
• The emperor Xandes (sp?) of the Allagan Empire is not dead. He is actually in a cold sleep chamber. Yoshida-san wants us to speculate whether Nael was trying to bring Dalamud down to awaken the Emperor and whether the appearance of the Crystal Tower signifies the Emperor's awakening or not.
• Main story will end at lvl50 with a tentative ending, what will follow are numbered patches, just like with the 7th Umbral Era storyline of 1.x. He emphasizes that he's not talking about expansions here. Those 3 storylines will come to a conclusion before the first expansion is released.
• "The Grand Labyrith of Bahamut" is not meant figuratively, but literally. It's going to be huge.
• It appears that Bahamut was not allowed to roam around freely, which is why there is a labyrinth and why the world has recovered. The whiteout at the end of the End of Era trailer takes place right before something happens. [Odin after all?]
• ARR opening may feature a narration by Louisiox.

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

Some story bits from the gamewatch interview, full post here

• Nael is dead. [Sounded pretty final, so no "coming back as omega weapon" etc]
• Gaius was just observing which party is going to fall, so he and his troops are unharmed. He is going to be our opponent for the time being.
• Crystal tower is related to the mystery behind the Allagan Empire, and is it's legacy.
• All of the 3 storylines are interwined somehow.
• Dalamud was a machine created by the Allagan Empire [so, it was not the same as the sealing ceremony Louisiox tried to perform!]
• The emperor Xandes (sp?) of the Allagan Empire is not dead. He is actually in a cold sleep chamber. Yoshida-san wants us to speculate whether Nael was trying to bring Dalamud down to awaken the Emperor and whether the appearance of the Crystal Tower signifies the Emperor's awakening or not.
• Main story will end at lvl50 with a tentative ending, what will follow are numbered patches, just like with the 7th Umbral Era storyline of 1.x. He emphasizes that he's not talking about expansions here. Those 3 storylines will come to a conclusion before the first expansion is released.
• "The Grand Labyrith of Bahamut" is not meant figuratively, but literally. It's going to be huge.
• It appears that Bahamut was not allowed to roam around freely, which is why there is a labyrinth and why the world has recovered. The whiteout at the end of the End of Era trailer takes place right before something happens. [Odin after all?]
• ARR opening may feature a narration by Louisiox.

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I KNEW IT!! Odin or Lousoix create the Labyrinth! :D

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Originally Posted by Soukyuu

Some story bits from the gamewatch interview, full post here
[LIST][*] Gaius was just observing which party is going to fall, so he and his troops are unharmed. He is going to be our opponent for the time being.

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Oh right, it was the VIIth Legion fighting on the Flats. The XIVth Legion is Gaius'.

On a side note, remember the talk about Ascians and those without shadows (specifically Tranvanchet). Y'shtola was looking for him, as shown in Legends Adrift (3rd Limsa Quest).

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...V/noshadow.jpg


I'm recording all cutscenes (takes up a lot of space!).

I don't know how much the Ascians are going to play a part in ARR since the original story was scrapped.

I studied the Limsa storyline a lot and here's he summary. Basically, the Ascian Travanchet was looking for the "Key" that would unlock "Seal Rock". Seal Rock is supposed to be an island called Swallowtail Roam that, like Dalamud, was the prison for a giant serpent that spewed water until all of the land and life on Eorzea was threatened. Y'shtola read a tablet fished off the island, that suspiciously looks similar to the type of "stones" that made up Dalamud. The tablet said that there were some fell Grammaryes (magic) that called forth "O'erreaching seas." Later, however, in the recruiting quests for the GCs, Y'shtola spoke of a cabal of mages that either triggered or stopped up the deluge (Sisipu says it was Llymlaen who stopped it) but she stopped short of saying what the truth was.

At any rate, the Ascian wanted to key to himself. He was also in line with the Sahagin who turned violent and aggressive as soon as Swallowtail Roam appeared. Considering what we know from the sylphs, exposure to the influence of primals causes changes in the beast tribes, making them violent and aggressive.

If the "key" that the Ascian was seeking is the one that would be used to free a primal (Leviathan) from his cage, would it stand to reason that the Ascian was "teaching" the Sahagins how to summon a primal and therefore, is it reasonable to speculate that Ascians are the Paragons?

Your thoughts please.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

If the "key" that the Ascian was seeking is the one that would be used to free a primal (Leviathan) from his cage, would it stand to reason that the Ascian was "teaching" the Sahagins how to summon a primal and therefore, is it reasonable to speculate that Ascians are the Paragons?

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I don't know if unsealing a primal is the same as teaching the tribes to summon it. To me, it sounds more like he just wanted to free Leviathan, possibly to let it run wild, kinda like Bahamut went wild upon being unsealed. I can imagine Leviathan would be pretty mad after being sealed for so long too...

Sidenote: I think you meant "Grimoires"

One thing I'm concerned about this point is what parts of 1.X will remain what we'd technically call "canon". Press releases and forum posts are kind of bi-polar about this issue, with the impressions being given that we'll "return" to the original storyline, which has been heavily "changed," with certain elements being "scrapped."

This is complicated because, yes, the game is being relaunched and rebuilt, but also what happened in the Sixth Astral Era is still technically history?

Just how much of what we went through is going to end up on the cutting room floor?

As for the nature of aether and primals and such, I think I'm about ready to make a post on that. Wrapping up some loose ends.

It's "grammaryes".... Dictionary.com spells it with one "m".

But if he weren't going to teach them how to use the key, why were the Sahagin cooperating with Travanchet at all? After all, Travanchet didn't share with the Knights of the Barracuda how to use the key. It was useless in their hands. Unless there was something in it for the Sahagin, I don't see why they would ally themselves with the Ascian.

The Leviathan summoning was already sorta scrapped when the unfortunately real-life events occurred. They WERE going to have Leviathan in the story, but Seal Rock disappeared into the mists again and didn't reappear.