You pull you tank question.

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Originally Posted by Dimi824

For all those who are scared to w2w pull, its not very hard. Rip the bandaid off and try it:

Tanks: SPRINT past first pack while using your 1-2 aoe combo and plant on the 2nd pack: use rampart + job + arm's length for 1 pull, your 40% for the other. You can reprisal both pulls and anything else with a shorter cooldown. Use your mits as you plant on the 2nd pack, not 5 seconds before the pull is over.

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Imagine gaslighting sprouts into thinking a 2 pack is a wall to wall pull.

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Originally Posted by ObscuraFi

You can ignore this person that didn't see the front page 700 page healer thread and strike regarding other roles (such as tank) being given healer abilities that lower the usefulness of healers (exact wording: "encroaches on the role - 399 likes"), as well as noting that tank sustain getting buffed again for a 2nd expansion when it wasn't needed. ("increased tank sustain that they didn't need - 121 likes"). People are out here unsubbing from the game and refusing to play the role in content in mass because their role is being slowly invalidated and is boring af, but apparently some people want to have an identity crisis going into denial about their importance, meanwhile ACTUAL healers have been making threads with 300+ upvotes since 2020 that literally read "Warrior, paladin and gunbreaker all have enough sustain that they literally don't need healers and can keep other party members alive at the same time." "but the problem is that collectively the overall mitigation and healing from non healers is enough to negate healers entirely."

You got a small minority of the gaslighting section the forums saying healers are just as important as tanks, and the other 95%+ making threads, going on strike, and giving feedback how they feel useless and negated inside of content.

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The thing about all this.
While Relevant if you WANT TO CHANGE THE WAY THE WHOLE GAME PLAYS TO BENIFIT YOUR POSITION, DESIRES, OR BELIEFS.

It does not change how the game and queues are.

While everyone agrees that Certain roles can be more entertaining, you hear from many who Omni-Role/Job are enjoying the Current Content so far.
More So as roles are just a percentage enough demanding of their kit.

While it can improve more for those roles. That topic in the overall doesn't really apply to this conversation, and EXPANDS the scope beyond all measurable expectation.

Talking about the Decaying tree of YPYT, and not about a Forest with its positives and negatives. (Which all boil down to people suddenly bringing out their attitude on a unwary party)

Also, This Expansion Arrived with two new DPS jobs. It seems Clear that no matter what Other topics may say. There will be a inflation of a lack of Healing or Tanking due to a increase of DPS jobs being leveled by 2.

Unfortunately, That Topic you link to, doesn't really have much involvement here.

When overall enjoyment of a role that isn't the focus, is being compared to, Party Disputes brought to a head by a tank, and the fact that concerns, and accidents becoming powder kegs due to certain party members.

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Originally Posted by ObscuraFi

Imagine gaslighting sprouts into thinking a 2 pack is a wall to wall pull.

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Do you even do 80-100 content?

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Originally Posted by Kyanari

What you're referring to seems totally irrelevant to this topic.

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It's a spin off from the idea that tanks should be the one's controlling the group's pace instead of a dps or healer, whether that applies to dungeons or raid content. And the reason I said they have that choice is because they are the most important role toward that content's completion being the necessary shield. That's when people got into healers and dps's being just as important, yada yada yada.

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Originally Posted by Kyanari

What I read from this thread tells me that they are upset because the tank got upset because they decided to pull before them. Rather than telling "it's ok to pull more, we got you", you just went ahead and decided for yourself. How is that considerate for the party? Please, let us not generalize things and conclude that tanks doing this are ego tripping. We don't even know what's going on with them. Oh, and if people will say that this doesn't happen in other regions and that they're nice, they just want to get over this thing but I bet some of them were also annoyed by doing this kind of behavior.



What you're referring to seems totally irrelevant to this topic.

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Well, the other guy you quoting is literally suggesting tank is the only role that matters. If that's not ego tripping then what is?
Just read their posts, couldn't be more blatant. Oh the Voidsent guy is the same as the guy above btw.

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Originally Posted by noelregnard

Well, the other guy you quoting is literally suggesting tank is the only role that matters. If that's not ego tripping then what is?

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There's probably something in a psychology textbook.

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Originally Posted by ObscuraFi

It's a spin off from the idea that tanks should be the one's controlling the group's pace instead of a dps or healer, whether that applies to dungeons or raid content. And the reason I said they have that choice is because they are the most important role toward that content's completion being the necessary shield. That's when people got into healers and dps's being just as important, yada yada yada.

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"I'M THE MAIN CHARACTER, I'M THE ONE WHO MAKES ALL THE DECISION, I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO MATTERS"

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Originally Posted by noelregnard

Well, the other guy you quoting is literally suggesting tank is the only role that matters. If that's not ego tripping then what is?
Just read their posts, couldn't be more blatant. Oh the Voidsent guy is the same as the guy above btw.

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I don't remember quoting anybody when I replied here first.

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Originally Posted by Kyanari

I don't remember quoting anybody when I replied here first.

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The guy you quoted in the in same post you quoted me? The guy I just replied to right above?

YPYT is more or less what the tanks say as an excuse for not being on their sprint game. A tank should go so fast that no DPS or Healer can keep up, if a tank refuses to tank for whatever reason it is as bad as a DPS refusing to do more DPS than the tank, or a healer doing less healing than a DPS.

As for reportable, laugh to yourself about exposing a tank that is not as good as they think they are when they say it.