Alliance Raids and players not waiting for Cutscene Watchers

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Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva

You'll need to burn the entire forum then.

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Give me the button. I will do it with a giant grin on my face~!

Thats... the petty stuff i meant the thread didn't have much of...

Uh thanks for showing what i didn't mean... for a discussion.

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Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva

Opening the last pages of this thread be like
https://i.gifer.com/v5a.gif

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Really makes you feel the warmth of a great community, all that fire 8)

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Originally Posted by Gethard

Just based on the few dungeons I've done, I anticipated this was probably going to be an issue going forward. My WoW instincts are to skip cutscenes or face some sort of negative consequence for being "selfish". My recently acquired FFXIV instincts say otherwise.

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Don't skip (unless you personally want to) or let someone make you skip. Watch your cutscenes. They may do the fight without you and that sucks, but don't let that pressure you. If you're an essential role and they do that and die, that's on them entirely. The vast majority of players won't care. Many will wait for you just out of politeness. So don't let the random jerk or two you get force you to ruin your experience.

the mental gymnastics and gaslighting happening here... lord have mercy.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

the mental gymnastics and gaslighting happening here... lord have mercy.

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This is the GD way.

Quick and easy solution is for the devs to code in unskippable cutscenes whenever the game detects new players within that raid. Its unbelievable how people are selfish in this community where "its only ok to take your time as a new player, but NOT on my time". What a crappy double standard. I know at least for me, I respect and care more about giving others their time to see the boss cinematic at least. At least this is my mindset whenever I do content with new folk (which Im sorry its bound to happen considering the wave of new people playing this game for the first time). Whenever I get queued up with veterans though then who cares at that point I mean its just obvious lol.

I swear the whole "FF has the best community" is just a joke. You are all terrible people................................. but I love you all anyway.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

I swear the whole "FF has the best community" is just a joke. You are all terrible people................................. but I love you all anyway.

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I mean, if you gave me the choice to pick between XIV community vs other MMO communities that I’ve experienced in the past, I’d lean toward XIV’s by large margin. It is the best of the bunch. But if you know the nature of communities, it will and has always been fostering their own brand of toxicities regardless. No communities are clean 100%.

These dumpster fire reactions typically do not happen in-game. It’s pretty rare (at least in my experience) to see people throwing fit when people pull early or are ‘forced’ to watch cutscenes. Mostly when this happens people would just express their discomfort in non-confrontational ways or putting a reminder that first timers exists and just join in afterward. People generally just don’t care enough… except when you’re paired with few special individuals.

It’s not a big deal.

/shrug

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

I mean, if you gave me the choice to pick between XIV community vs other MMO communities that I’ve experienced in the past, I’d lean toward XIV’s by large margin. It is the best of the bunch. But if you know the nature of communities, it will and has always been fostering their own brand of toxicities regardless. No communities are clean 100%.

These dumpster fire reactions typically do not happen in-game. It’s pretty rare (at least in my experience) to see people throwing fit when people pull early or are ‘forced’ to watch cutscenes. Mostly when this happens people would just express their discomfort in non-confrontational ways or putting a reminder that first timers exists and just join in afterward. People generally just don’t care enough… except when you’re paired with few special individuals.

It’s not a big deal.

/shrug

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Yeah its honestly generally not a big deal if a few people are missing from the first minute or two of the boss encounter watching cutscenes, (Unless they happen to be healers or tanks which may or may not lead to a quick alliance wipe).

I hate how 'vets' expect new players to research a boss before fighting it.

If it makes them so mad why can't the 'vets' just explain the 1-shots before the boss?
Researching a boss before fighting it is a spoiler in my book.

I just don't understand how its selfish to not want to spoil something. It's selfish to expect it tbh.

(coming from someone who kept getting bullied over this)