The Lessons Not Learned.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

*Snip because character limit*

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I agree too, frankly.

I played another MMO for over a decade. A so-called Free to Play one - it used to be a pretty good game, but sadly turned into a FOMO-driven mess with Devs who became reliant on FOMO tactics and loot boxes and, as a result, neglect the actual game content. They only release one episode every five or so months and the rest of the time expect players to constantly play 'events' which last for weeks and involve repeat-playing recycled content with invisible timers, infinite waves of enemies and every other stupid scheme used to make sure players don't finish a given piece of new content too quickly. I mean, having to play a piece of content every now and then is all fine, but grinding it every day for weeks is a sure way to make me hate it to the point of not wanting to replay it ever again.

Saying that, the Devs of that game have made it clear that they consider the items that they sell through their cash-shop (or put into the loot boxes) to be 'content'. I, personally, don't agree and one of the many reasons I quit that game was because I had little interest in spending £250 on their cash-shop item 'bundles' or gambling to win their loot box grand prize. What's the point in shiny new items when there is absolutely no new content to use them in?

I much prefer paying a Subscription over the sort of sleazy, predatory, F2P model that the game I referred to, as well as others, have adopted.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

Little more than the truth. If you cant or wont understand that, not my problem.

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I suggest blocking them.
You've seen the quality of their posts.
Nothing will be lost if you block them.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

I dont see an issue here.

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"I don't see an issue, therefore one must not exist."

I love when people use this take because not only does it show what side said person is on but also that they're willing to put blinders on and invalidate the views of others. Noice.
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Also, let me throw in this easily Google-able piece of information since you seem to think the game is a JRPG over an MMORPG:
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"Final Fantasy XIV is an MMORPG and features a persistent world in which players can interact with each other and the environment."

And there's, of course, this little bit that we all know by now:

"Did you know that the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV has a free trial, and includes the entirety of A Realm Reborn AND the award-winning Heavensward expansion up to level 60 with no restrictions on playtime?"

If you think it really is a JRPG first then cool, your life..whatever works. Just I hope you're also aware that the vast majority dont view it that way, at least by google-able sources.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

"I don't see an issue, therefore one must not exist."

I love when people use this take because not only does it show what side said person is on but also that they're willing to put blinders on and invalidate the views of others. Noice.
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Also, let me throw in this easily Google-able piece of information since you seem to think the game is a JRPG over an MMORPG:
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"Final Fantasy XIV is an MMORPG and features a persistent world in which players can interact with each other and the environment."

And there's, of course, this little bit that we all know by now:

"Did you know that the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV has a free trial, and includes the entirety of A Realm Reborn AND the award-winning Heavensward expansion up to level 60 with no restrictions on playtime?"

If you think it really is a JRPG first then cool, your life..whatever works. Just I hope you're also aware that the vast majority dont view it that way, at least by google-able sources.

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I mean...again 2 sides. All they said was they personally don't see an issue. They don't have to care past that as it doesn't effect them. No real right or wrong there.

And let's say it IS wrong. These negative topics succeed in invalidating the opinions of those who don't have issues with these things. "Don't agree with the negativity? You're a lost cause n not worth talking to". It's a circle of stupidity.

Btw regardless of what's said you're spending most of your time in xiv akin to an rpg. Xiv being an rpg with mmo elements isn't a new take. Many have said this over the years and I can't say they are wrong.

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at least by google-able sources.

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Didnt look very far did you

https://twinfinite.net/2022/06/best-ps5-jrpgs-play/

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Final Fantasy XIV
Best PS5 JRPGs 2022

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https://www.neogaf.com/threads/which...olden.1561633/

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Which JRPG should I play next? FF14 or Persona 4 Golden?

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For the purpose of this article, a JRPG is defined as a franchise which: (1) is considered a role-playing game by reliable sources and was made in Japan, or (2) made in another country, but otherwise the franchise would be difficult to differentiate from a JRPG due to having common traits found in JRPGs such as: anime/manga character designs, RPG elements, fantasy setting and widely considered as being inspired or influenced by a JRPG.

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Thats a few of them, there are more but thats a sample.

JRPG is a genre, an MMO is a game TYPE, you can have a JRPG that is also single player aka the Ff series.

FF 14 is a JRPG with multiplayer ELEMENTS..theres a big difference between the two. MMOs can be adapted to ANY genre or type, from Fallout to Albion Online. i remember a phone conference where the idea of an MMO based on running a hotel was raised. Waiters, chefs, all of it.

He was kidding.

I hope. :rolleyes:

What even is this discussion? It's an MMO with jrpg elements.

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Originally Posted by Lustre

What even is this discussion? It's an MMO with jrpg elements.

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The lengths people will go to defend a lack of content and rewards.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

The lengths people will go to defend a lack of content and rewards.

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Rule #1 for any company in the video game industry: Always form a strong parasocial bond with your customers. Lmao.

Here's what I don't get. Every reward in this game has been gear/glamour, mounts or titles. If not, then minions, materia sometimes and chocobo glamours.

What sort of rewards were people expecting? Gear on par with savage?

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Here's what I don't get. Every reward in this game has been gear/glamour, mounts or titles. If not, then minions, materia sometimes and chocobo glamours.

What sort of rewards were people expecting? Gear on par with savage?

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To make a long story short, yes. Or something that at least had stats on it for the normal mode. Given its inspiration from both WoW dungeons and the fact that idealized gear sets dropped in 5.25, it was well within the realm of reasonable expectations.