New Jobs Gated Behind Completion of 2.0 Story?

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Originally Posted by Tyrial

You keep throwing this "i90" around like it's as monumental as it used to be back at 2.0 and the game doesn't basically vomit gear that ilvl or higher at level 50 from the STORY dungeons...it's everywhere...

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I'm only throwing it around because it's a requirement. The second you hit level 50, chances are you will be at i45, which means you can not do the 2.1 dungeons (you can do the Low Level and Main Story Roulette though, so that's almost one Soldiery accessory a day). Depending on how much time you can spend in the game, hitting i90 could take you a day, or up to a week. Possibly longer.

Which now makes me think of another issue. People who can only play the game for up to (example) three hours a day. How long do you think it will take them to hit level 50 and then i90?

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

That is a little extravagant, "everything?" you need to know about the game - that is impossible. That is also not a tutorial, that is pretty much the same descriptions as older games did, very vague on the reality.

It honestly taught me little to nothing about the true game. Lets say "Housing" for example, in most games you can group up with someone and invite them to your Inn room, in this game you cannot. It doesn't say you can't either.

All of this provides a "very basic description" of the real game. You would be an absolute fool to say otherwise.

It provides a very basic description. That is all.

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Thanks for the reply back. Have a good night.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

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This is why the game is built on finding an FC and being able to ask for help. A recently new guy hit 50 in our FC tonight and we ran him through dungeons. Even multiple turns because its THAT easy to get him to i90+. He just hit 50 today and hes already in t9.

How long did it take him to hit level 50? and how often could he play per day?

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Originally Posted by Nestama

How long did it take him to hit level 50? and how often could he play per day?

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He works full time, hardly on but we as an FC when he could would jump in classes and run him through dungeons. Kill EVERYTHING. It only took him 1 month to get there.

It's easy to get 1-25 If you get the friend code thing. The EXP boost is godly amazing, and once you get to 30, your pretty much signed sealed and good to go.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

I'm only throwing it around because it's a requirement. The second you hit level 50, chances are you will be at i45, which means you can not do the 2.1 dungeons (you can do the Low Level and Main Story Roulette though, so that's almost one Soldiery accessory a day). Depending on how much time you can spend in the game, hitting i90 could take you a day, or up to a week. Possibly longer.

Which now makes me think of another issue. People who can only play the game for up to (example) three hours a day. How long do you think it will take them to hit level 50 and then i90?

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Why does it matter how long it takes? This is a MMO meant to span over a period of time not be beaten in 2 days.

1-10 Slow leveling but with friend code = smooth.
10-20 Aleport Fates.
20-30 Quarrymill Area
30-40 Costa del Sol
40-50 Coerthas Fates.

The game exp is easy. Make a group with your FC - have them help you out, while they do lights or whatever. Grind it. Do Storymodes along the way, you don't have to touch any side quests in this game.

Fates will carry thee.

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Originally Posted by Callinon

Here's the thing. It's not JUST FFXI's expansions that didn't make you do this to play new jobs... no MMO does that.

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New to the mmo genre, I take it? Other MMOs have done this in the past. And required a lot more then completing some story quests.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Which to this day, has not taught me a single thing about any of the dungeons, especially the harder ones. The hests strategies are completely different and usually teach you NOTHING. Great idea in practice, not in reality.
What help tutorial? I've only been playing a month and i've yet to find it.

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You learned nothing from guildhests? I take it then you ignored everything the hest NPCs tell you? Because the guildhests help you with a lot of the tactics you will actually need to use in dungeons.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

Granted, I respect your opinion however I must say that you should explain why your opinion works rather then just giving examples and saying your opinion.

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Examples are used to provide situations where (and show how) they work. As such, your argument doesnt make much sense.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

I actually explained why its a good thing to support my case - you have not. If you do indeed respect me, say the reasons. Not excuses.

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Plenty of reasons have been given. Just because you choose to ignore them does not make them invalid.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

All of this provides a "very basic description" of the real game. You would be an absolute fool to say otherwise.

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They provide excellent explaination of all the subjects they relate to, actually.

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Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor

That is also not a tutorial, that is pretty much the same descriptions as older games did, very vague on the reality.

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Older games? Older games rarely gave any explaination.

All ethics aside, for anyone with friends that are looking to play but want to be specific jobs: tell them to do the free trial now. If a player won't like the base game then they just will not like the expansion or its jobs no matter what kind of bells and whistles are in place. The basic mechanics and know-how's will boil down to the same things we have now.

Helps support them being a good shopper as a bonus.