Instanced Raids Unveiled!

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

the only MMO currently on the market doing this(to an extent that doesnt break the game, im looking at you city of heroes!) is lego universe

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lol. Love that game. Just saying!

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

lol. Love that game. Just saying!

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which game?

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

which game?

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Lego Universe! lol

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

Lego Universe! lol

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yeah it is a pretty awesome game, i go back and pound out every achievment every time they add something new(which is often)
i of course dont have the game for myself, got an 8 year old, she loves it too

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

the only MMO currently on the market doing this(to an extent that doesnt break the game, im looking at you city of heroes!) is lego universe

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EVE Online does it as well. There is hardly any traditional "story content" or "quests" created by the devs, yet the players still have a lot of stuff to do to keep themselves occupied.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

it isnt about game balance and longevity

its a mid rank dungeon, not endgame

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Just because it's mid-rank doesn't mean it can't be properly balanced. The open-world NMs couldn't be properly balanced just because of the nature of being open-world, but instances can be balanced.

FF14 is in a unique position compared to other MMOs because all of your classes are on the same character. In other MMOs, you can't just use your max level character to grab raid gear and give it to your lower level alts because all the good raid gear is character-bound, which is why level caps aren't as necessary. If you could do that, it would be detrimental to game balance.

In FF14, all of your "alts" (i.e. different classes) are on the same character, so you could essentially twink your lower classes with raid gear using minimal effort as your overpowered rank 50 main class.

(In other games like Diablo II, you can do this, but the item and loot mechanic is different so the principles don't necessarily apply the same way).

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

well its a start
we also have the upcoming ifrit battle to look forward to also
and thats not counting future planned content

its unfortunately the nature of the mmo that it does take time to add dungeons and such, so you wont get them just shooting out on a bi weekly basis

but this is a start

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Oh yes the upcoming... We all know the potential Final Fantasy has 'upcoming'. Thats simply why we are all here right now, the only problem is that the start is nearly a year from release. But it is a start...

I love that this game has become more and more playable. However now that it is playable, i'd like something to play wit.

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Just because it's mid-rank doesn't mean it can't be properly balanced. The open-world NMs couldn't be properly balanced just because of the nature of being open-world, but instances can be balanced.

FF14 is in a unique position compared to other MMOs because all of your classes are on the same character. In other MMOs, you can't just use your max level character to grab raid gear and give it to your lower level alts because all the good raid gear is character-bound, which is why level caps aren't as necessary. If you could do that, it would be detrimental to game balance.

In FF14, all of your "alts" (i.e. different classes) are on the same character, so you could essentially twink your lower classes with raid gear using minimal effort as your overpowered rank 50 main class.

(In other games like Diablo II, you can do this, but the item and loot mechanic is different so the principles don't necessarily apply the same way).

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Except the r30 raid gear isn't going to be better than r50 gear, which is what any r50 is REALLY going to want. You're not going to need r30 raid gear to run the r50 dungeon, so the only reason a r50 is going to running a r30 dungeon is for vanity.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

Except the r30 raid gear isn't going to be better than r50 gear, which is what any r50 is REALLY going to want.

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R50s also really want R30 gear to equip on their R30 classes. R30 raid gear is going to be better than normal R30 gear that we have now. If all you have to do is run a R30 dungeon in EZ Mode as your R50 class, then there's no point at all in considering any other gear option at rank 30 because the best gear at rank 30 is also stupidly going to be the easiest gear to acquire.

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

R50s also really want R30 gear to equip on their R30 classes. R30 raid gear is going to be better than normal R30 gear that we have now. If all you have to do is run a R30 dungeon in EZ Mode as your R50 class, then there's no point at all in considering any other gear option at rank 30 because the best gear at rank 30 is also stupidly going to be the easiest gear to acquire.

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Who cares if r30 gear is better than normal rank 30 gear when I can level my r30 in whatever armor I want? It's a sub-class at best, not my main class. If there were a cap on the dungeon, I would have no interest in the gear at all. I would spend my time doing fail leves and level my r30 to r50 and just get the r50 gear, period.