Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

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Originally Posted by WeakestZenosEnjoyer

I've actually seen the scales once, it was fairly recently,

we uh, we wiped to it and skipped it on the second attempt

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sounds like crystal tower. sometimes people fall asleep because its too easy. nice visuals dont prevent that. and then they have to do mechanics they arent rdy to do... or dont remember

Tanks stood far apart, kept fighting for aggro, managed to Provoke and spin Calofisteri at the last second. She cleaved the entire raid with Haircut. This happened twice. I thought it was hilarious, personally, but people seemed annoyed.

I have a few stories:

1. A few years ago, I had a party in The Aery that could not for the life of them muster up enough DPS to clear the final boss. It was really incredible. We must have wiped like 10 or more times. I don't remember if we actually cleared it. We might have abandoned the duty.

2. Same issue with The Lost City of Amdapor's final boss. Those mechanics, to be honest, are really confusing. I think we disbanded after like 10 tries.

3. This next one is just a head-scratcher. I was tanking for Bardam's Mettle as Paladin and started my first pull. The healer somehow expected me to use Hallowed Ground for the first pull. The healer did not heal me once so of course I died and then got mad and left the party after angrily typing "Why didn't you use your invulnerability for the first pull". Like there was no communication at all about using Hallowed Ground... how would I know?

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Originally Posted by Suniva

]I just got out of, a very strange Anamnesis Anyder run. First boss, the healer dies, but me, the samurai and the tank keep pushing through and kill the boss. At the end though, the tank dies, which is unfortunate. I run over to them and /cry because I was genuinely sad that they died in the end. The following conversation ensues...

https://imgur.com/a/n5vb8T6

In the 11 years of playing this game, I have never EVER encountered a situation like this before. I absolutely meant no offense to this individual. They left before I could apologize in party chat, but after we finished the run, I did send them an apology since clearly they were upset enough to leave and if they were genuinely upset, then they very much deserved one. I could understand this sort of reaction if I tbagged them by doing /squats, but this kind of a reaction from a /cry emote is something I was not expecting, at all. So I suppose the lesson is to not /cry over your fallen comrades anymore.

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You shouldn't have. You did nothing wrong, they were being oversensible.

I'm normally a pretty chill healer but when you die repeatedly because you don't take advantage of the invuln to give me a chance to heal you and then go "no pick up heals??" I become a very non-chill healer.

This post brought to you by a reaper I was going to murder a fourth or fifith time with my own hands in Lapis Manalis.

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Originally Posted by aquarys

3. This next one is just a head-scratcher. I was tanking for Bardam's Mettle as Paladin and started my first pull. The healer somehow expected me to use Hallowed Ground for the first pull. The healer did not heal me once so of course I died and then got mad and left the party after angrily typing "Why didn't you use your invulnerability for the first pull". Like there was no communication at all about using Hallowed Ground... how would I know?

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That's just silly. I keep an eye out in case a tank does use it so I can act accordingly (because superbolide is my favoritest button in the world to press) but I don't get salty if the tank doesn't use it.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

I'm normally a pretty chill healer but when you die repeatedly because you don't take advantage of the invuln to give me a chance to heal you and then go "no pick up heals??" I become a very non-chill healer.

This post brought to you by a reaper I was going to murder a fourth or fifith time with my own hands in Lapis Manalis.




That's just silly. I keep an eye out in case a tank does use it so I can act accordingly (because superbolide is my favoritest button in the world to press) but I don't get salty if the tank doesn't use it.

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To be honest they might not know about the invuln after rez. I didn't until I read a similar post to this here on the forum. It is not something we are told while leveling. Mind you I don't complain if I screw up like that. These days I feel lucky to get a rez at all for any reason.

lvl 50 roulette, we die on the first long pull, then on the first boss the healing is nearly non existent and healer is doing no mechanics, second pull we wipe again, then again...

Check the healers name, only job is a lvl 80 whm, only mounts/minions are the ones you get when you buy a skip...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I hate these silly skip books. The sheer incompetency of ppl who just buy these skips is getting to the point I dont even want to run roulettes anymore. I could not imagine starting an mmo and skipping the entirety of the story and the leveling process and then diving straight into a dungeon. I would be embarrassed.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

I'm normally a pretty chill healer but when you die repeatedly because you don't take advantage of the invuln to give me a chance to heal you and then go "no pick up heals??" I become a very non-chill healer.

This post brought to you by a reaper I was going to murder a fourth or fifith time with my own hands in Lapis Manalis.

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Stuff like this is why I gave up healing randoms.

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That's just silly. I keep an eye out in case a tank does use it so I can act accordingly (because superbolide is my favoritest button in the world to press) but I don't get salty if the tank doesn't use it.

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Unfortunately invulns can be a damn if you do damn if you don't type deal if you don't know the healer. Some will expect you to use it immediately (which actually makes perfect sense in a vacuum imo) and get angry at you if you don't, while others find the very idea of you glancing at the invuln for anything other than an absolute emergency as the ultimate insult or otherwise just get weird about it (no matter whether or not you communicated beforehand), which kinda makes the former group look silly considering they should be aware that the latter group exists. Communication is extremely important on both sides.

That being said, while I'd love to use my invuln more proactively, I really only feel comfortable using it on more spicier pulls like the aforementioned first pull in bardam's mettle or the last pulls in tower of zot/babil, purely because of the previously mentioned conundrum. Unless it's hallowed ground, no other drawbacks with that one besides the larger cooldown.

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Originally Posted by DonutSteel

Stuff like this is why I gave up healing randoms.


Unfortunately invulns can be a damn if you do damn if you don't type deal if you don't know the healer. Some will expect you to use it immediately (which actually makes perfect sense in a vacuum imo) and get angry at you if you don't, while others find the very idea of you glancing at the invuln for anything other than an absolute emergency as the ultimate insult or otherwise just get weird about it (no matter whether or not you communicated beforehand), which kinda makes the former group look silly considering they should be aware that the latter group exists. Communication is extremely important on both sides.

That being said, while I'd love to use my invuln more proactively, I really only feel comfortable using it on more spicier pulls like the aforementioned first pull in bardam's mettle or the last pulls in tower of zot/babil, purely because of the previously mentioned conundrum. Unless it's hallowed ground, no other drawbacks with that one besides the larger cooldown.

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It really is just DF, lol. It's a mixed bag. I've healed in it for 10 years now.

And for invulns, I have a macro to warn the healer it's coming on the next pull. I use it on the second pull and then the last pull in most dungeons since that's right around the time it's up again. Second pull gives them a little time to generate things like lilies to have ready and such.

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Originally Posted by Myrany

To be honest they might not know about the invuln after rez. I didn't until I read a similar post to this here on the forum. It is not something we are told while leveling. Mind you I don't complain if I screw up like that. These days I feel lucky to get a rez at all for any reason.

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Yep, entirely possible. The dancer also kept dying and immediately using actions but didn't get snotty in chat so they didn't get my ire. It was Lapis second boss and swiftcast was on CD constantly the entire fight, so I was fighting to find places to hard cast and then having to immediately avoid mechanics when they would raise so they died again sometimes right when I was tossing it out. I love pear-shaped groups and I really thrive on that sort of chaos. The comment just definitely went right up my butt when I was working my behind off trying to keep things going.

Shoutout to this DRK player in Heroes' Gauntlet.

Run was really smooth but during the last boss the healer dies. Healer apologizes for their mistake but that's no biggie. Second DPS dies because of course. Only me and the tank are left and I try to survive and DPS as much as possible. Then I die. I rez and go back asap to the boss arena.

And I see the DRK tanking the remaining 12% and killing the boss.

That was quite the sight to behold.