Get rid of SAM Limit break gimmick already (FL)

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Originally Posted by Cidel

Oh my gawd, I remember when NA used to do that. Then somehow the meta became "92-99% of the team run to the 1st wave of drones and maybe, just maybe you have a person or two try to claim an adjacent flag, assuming the other team didn't send an extra person to outnumber you. And then your team proceeds to get less points than 1 actual drone because they're morons that don't know what to actually do at mid. They just know they have to be there for some reason."

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That's why when I played at NA Secure I was like, what kind of barbarian style they do here? Run and forth to each posts...

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Originally Posted by brancinaed

Which change to Zantetsuken do y'all think would be more fair?

A change to, "If target is afflicted with Kuzushi, deals damage equal to 99% of their maximum HP."
Or removing "Ignores the effects of Guard when dealing damage."


Personally I enjoy the one-shot, but I disapprove of the suicide samurai playstyle. Removing 100% health damage pretty much eliminates the suicide samurai and makes it a tool for dueling again. I think Zantetsuken is important for shutting down Battle High V melees who would otherwise never die. Giving Guard counter play to it gives more agency to the person on the receiving end as they could just guard through Kuzushi.

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Make it so Kuzushi doesn't apply off AOEs unless you are the primary target. Example, if I'm on BLM and in my LB casting on your buddy next to you while you have chiten up. I wouldn't get Kuzushi. But if I was casting those Flares ON YOU...then I WOULD get Kuzushi. I'm fine with SAM's whole ignore guard thing. The issue is how braindead easily a SAM can secure a team wipe by just kamikaze running into the enemy team's AOE (Which are for a lot of jobs, either VITAL to their kit OR built into key portions of their kit.) and just turn Zantensuken into a dueling LB. Plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

AoE's definitely shouldn't trigger it for sure.

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So the guy gave me shit for 20+ pages just for the sake of being contrarian, and only now finally admits that AoE is a problem? Who hurt you?

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Originally Posted by Valence

So the guy gave me shit for 20+ pages just for the sake of being contrarian, and only now finally admits that AoE is a problem? Who hurt you?

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Me, probably.

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Originally Posted by Valence

So the guy gave me shit for 20+ pages just for the sake of being contrarian, and only now finally admits that AoE is a problem? Who hurt you?

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He finally got killed by it after a year of sitting behind his entire FL alliance.

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Originally Posted by Nikoto

He finally got killed by it after a year of sitting behind his entire FL alliance.

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PFFFT HHHAAHAAHA

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Originally Posted by Valence

So the guy gave me shit for 20+ pages just for the sake of being contrarian, and only now finally admits that AoE is a problem? Who hurt you?

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I have always agree that aoe shouldn't trigger it. Doesn't mean I agree that the LB is a problem overall. Its still easy to avoid and pretty much all of you here are terrible at pvp.

AoE is a problem yet it's easy to avoid?

Sounds logical. Keep digging.

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Originally Posted by Valence

AoE is a problem yet it's easy to avoid?

Sounds logical. Keep digging.

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this is why i ignore him, hes just arguing for the sake of arguing.... hold on... is this not a form of harassment?

EDIT: Nuisance behavior is reportable iirc.

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Originally Posted by Valence

AoE is a problem yet it's easy to avoid?

Sounds logical. Keep digging.

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Never said it was a problem, just agree that AoE shouldn't trigger it. I still have yet to be killed by that LB in FL. Honestly, the only LB that has ever caught me off guard is NIN.