Bard - they broke my job

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Originally Posted by Seifa

Ok, it's nice and dandy that Yoshida spoke to us and he aknowledged that Minuet is difficult to use but his last sentence makes me think that BRDs, from their point of view, should have so much less damage than other dps and comparable to a WAR?

Ok...

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WAR has a higher DPS output than bard/machinist more often than should happen right now with some exceptions. WAR as a class has benefited quite well from HW. So it would seem more like from SE's perspective BRD and MCH should have lower DPS output than tanks and every other DPS class on top of having their movements restricted, their auto-attacks cancelled and cast timers like a mage. I will wait to see how the class changes after make their adjustments but really, REALLY not getting my hopes up right now.

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Originally Posted by yamochan

ofc MCH is a whole other problem and i can see where ur coming from but since ive tested him as well. i have to say MCH works as he should. ok maybe a bit much rng. the only fix he needs are tweaks to the dmg numbers wich and i agree with you here are to low.

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Correct. The over all play style of MCH is absolutely fine, they did a great job. Only thing they need is a potency/modifier increase and maybe a few cooldown tweaks on some skills but other than that they all good.

It was only a matter of time.... figured this would happen since they like to "kite" aka runaroundlikeabloodyheadlesschickenmakinghardfortankstogetaggrooffthemwhilestillshootingsaidtarget.

i hope SE coming good fix bard job. now i play without WM and like it. Bard Not caster! Never! http://s017.radikal.ru/i408/1506/b7/22cc9eccee6f.jpg

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

Greetings,

I'd like to share a comment from Yoshi-P in response to all the feedback about bard.

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Thank you.


Also, I knew they weren't going to remove WM. That would be silly... but making it easier to use should help the people who seem to have trouble doing so.

Well, now we have to wait and see what the devs implement to deal with the issues mentioned. Hopefully they do something that will feel natural to BRD.

No hope at all. It doesn't adress the issue and he still thinks it's fine at lv60 and on top of that he says that he will have to keep an eye to see that it's not buffed a lot when it actually needs a huge buff to be of any use at all. And to be balanced with the other jobs dps.

And this is not a matter of opinion it's a fact...

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Originally Posted by Seifa

Ok, it's nice and dandy that Yoshida spoke to us and he aknowledged that Minuet is difficult to use but his last sentence makes me think that BRDs, from their point of view, should have so much less damage than other dps and comparable to a WAR?

Ok...

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I second this. War and drk are doing higher dps than brd and mch. It may not be much but still. I don't think a slight weapon damage increase would be a bad thing.

Sounds like they will do some fixing.. thats good!

Well if you take off the cast timer for wanderers minuet which it looks like they will do that is definitely a step in the right direction! when its time to burn toss it on and fire without having to miss a beat. i do like the burst potential with the ability...

make sure your dots are up before you turn it on.... then toggle burst.. cds/barrage->emp > sidewinder hs bl me etc. its pretty hard hitting.., then switch back to 2.x mode.

cast timer being eliminated will help to make it easier to deal with.

If your doing 2.x dps and switch it on for your CD burn then take it back off, i think it would net higher overall dps.

Good start.. now make it so WM doesnt turn autoattack off but instead slows the autoattack rate?

So seems like WM is going to stay.