Carraway's Guide to the New Archer: 1.18 and Beyond

and anyone tested what is the caps for sarnga +1? best dps and damage.. maybe arc > brd as dd with these new equip (gryphon and sarnga)

I haven't had the time to test stat caps with different bows, nor have I played around with a Sarnga at all, but I can say that in 1.22c, Flame Lieutenant's Bow will probably beat out every non-relic bow, including Garuda's Spine. It is close enough in DPS to where it should only lose a few points of damage on WSs, but should have significantly more powerful Light Shots.

edit: fixed typo

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Originally Posted by carraway

I haven't had the time to test stat caps with different bows, nor have I played around with a Sarnga at all, but I can say that in 1.22c, Flame Lieutenant's Bow will probably beat out every non-relic bow, including Garuda's Spine. It is close enough in DPS to where it should only lose a few points of damage on WSs, but should have significantly more powerful Light Shots.

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I think you meant this. :)

Yeah, thanks for the catch, haha.

Hi guys !
With the newly added GC's bows in patch 1.22c I'm thinking of using a Storm lieutenant's bow instead of my good old Ifrit's bow (Garuda's is sadly not an option right now).
With my current setup I have 300 DEX and 331 PIE, which should be enough to cap my stats with Ifrit's bow if I am not mistaken, and some attack+ and STR+ here and there as well.
So, would it be worth it to change it for a Storm lieutenant's bow ? I could probably add another ~20 DEX and ~15 PIE easily by swapping a few pieces but I'd also lose ~30 attack and ~15 STR, not to mention the +30 att from the Ifrit's bow itself.

Any advice is welcome :)

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Originally Posted by Momita

and anyone tested what is the caps for sarnga +1? best dps and damage.. maybe arc > brd as dd with these new equip (gryphon and sarnga)

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I'm actually very surprised no one has done this yet but I suppose I will take this task upon my self maybe as early as this weekend. Not for the sarnga +1 specifically mind you but for all weapons. Do to the linier nature of stat # vs damage in this game finding the governing equation for DPS Vs. Stat caps is incredibly easy, just takes someone with excel, a parser and 3 or 4 weapons with a decent DPS range.

Has anyone done any stat testing with the new Officer's Gear from the GC? Also, what about the new Officer Bows from the GC? Thanks for the discussion! It has been extraordinarily helpful!

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Originally Posted by Mazerin

Has anyone done any stat testing with the new Officer's Gear from the GC? Also, what about the new Officer Bows from the GC? Thanks for the discussion! It has been extraordinarily helpful!

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Not really sure what officers equipment you think would really benefit Archer or Bard that much, do you have any more specific questions. That being said the Flame Lieutenant’s Bow in my opinion is much better than any other bow in the game save the BRD relic of course. Its about .75 DPS lower than the Garuda’s Spine so your stat caps will be abit lower and WS will hit for abit less, however what it loses in WS damage it make up for and then some with its 109 DMG for light shots and barrage. With 38 more DMG than the Garuda’s Spine it hits like a dump truck in comparison. Not to mention the +30 atk you get which of course narrows the gap a little with respect to WS vs the Garuda’s Spine as well.

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Originally Posted by Drexel

Not really sure what officers equipment you think would really benefit Archer or Bard that much, do you have any more specific questions. That being said the Flame Lieutenant’s Bow in my opinion is much better than any other bow in the game save the BRD relic of course. Its about .75 DPS lower than the Garuda’s Spine so your stat caps will be abit lower and WS will hit for abit less, however what it loses in WS damage it make up for and then some with its 109 DMG for light shots and barrage. With 38 more DMG than the Garuda’s Spine it hits like a dump truck in comparison. Not to mention the +30 atk you get which of course narrows the gap a little with respect to WS vs the Garuda’s Spine as well.

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I currently have the Uldahn Officer's Overcoat, Hat, Gloves, and Boots. I personally thought the stats on this gear beat out the BRD AF Gear. Obviously, the BRD AF Gear is useful in certain situations (song buffs, etc.). Since I have terrible luck when it comes to Primal Weapon drops, I thought the Flame Lieutenant’s Bow would be a good option until a drop finally happens. Of course, the BRD Relic Weapon would be optimal but that's definitely more of a long term goal for me.

Personaly the only gear I would consider using on bard from Ul'dahs GC is the Flame Liutenant's bow, and the Flame Sergeant's Sash. Bard AF hat, shoes and pants are pretty much best in slot unless you want to get into double melds which even then you could only really beat the pants with double melded dex raptorskin subligar. The paragon's crown is pretty much the only hat better than the AF and DL feet are the only feet better than AF. Damage wise a Raptorskin Harness with a singe Piety IV on it is better than the Choral shirt, not by alot though and you loose out on the Balade bonus. For your accessories you just want to stack Piety, Dex and Atk to try to get closer to the 350 PTY 310 DEX cap for that bow. Actually the capse for the Flame Liutenant's bow are abit higher than that, not by much though. Regardless your main focus should always be to get as close to the PTY and DEX cap as you can, then fill the rest of your slots out with ATK or ACC if you can't put PTY or DEX in them.