WHY ARE YOU PLAYING A BARD IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SING?!

I wouldn't do ballad unless asked for it or if mages mp were below 1k (2k for certain fights). Foe I only use for dps check phases of fights not the whole time.

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Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl

EDITING THIS TO INFORM YOU ALL

Daily post limit reached which Is lame, wanted to say so much, but until another controversial topic comes up, I doubt you all will see me. :P bring more to the table, I play songs and my raid all does over 400 dps on t8. Monk and drg over 450. T9 is when im 20 percent dps but that's because bard is most suited in that fight. Anyway I don't think any song is needed in 4 mans or 24 mans except foes, none of the fights are long enough to strain tp and if you die or others die and your mp ooms you need to have back up to get out those situations, I'm not perfect, but reality check, I know what bard is, and it's a dps so I'm going to focus on it more than your badly managed mp pool

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LMAO!!! So you burned your post allowance tiring to convince the ARMY that is everyone else in this game why bard should NOT glance over and the mp bars and anticipate the need for Mage's ballad? That is beyond funny. The icing on the cake is you imply that you would rather die, wipe the party and lecture the healers on MP management (Ethers, SoS...whatever) than see the lack of MP and take action to save yourself and the party. You might want to brush up on the virtues of being a team player. Forget other's short comings. Work on yours. Take the hint.

Oops! Wait a minute. You said you don't like links. Ok then i'll explain what it is. It's a Youtube clip that explains what the Dunning–Kruger effect is:

"The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias manifesting in unskilled individuals suffering from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude."

Bards need to look at MP bars just like healers need to look at HP bars. It's not "right" or "wrong." It just is.

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Originally Posted by KenzieLynch

I can almost guarantee that you were spamming Medica II

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I take your almost and raise you never. I'm a WHM main, and I take great pride in my knowledge of the class, and the implementation of its abilities. I never, repeat NEVER use medica II twice in a row. I was using SoS on cooldown pretty much, and it still wasn't enough.

Go into Titan HM with 7 friends, have them do their best NOT to dodge, and try keeping them all alive without running into mp issues. You will have issues, then you'll realize how ignorant you comment was. That statement is not a personal attack, but your comment shows that you don't fully understand WHM.

The moral of the story is mp management is just as dependent on your party members skill as your own.

Singing is part of my job. It's MY responsibility as a Bard to notice when Mages need MP or when Tanks/DPS could use some TP. Fighting a boss? Throw up Foe. Bottom line, if you aren't singing, you aren't playing your job correctly.

best way to know when to sing a song:
blm in party? sing foes if more than 2 things to kill. blm and whm? things will do so much faster.
doing a raid? used invig already? tp less than 400? mnk and dragoon may be lower, tp song time.
2-3 people just die? whm/sch are going to need to bring them back. sing that mp song.

it takes little to no thought to realize when to use a song. imo, the macros asking for songs shouldnt exist because any person with a working brain, common sense, and deductive reasoning would be able to figure out who needs what when.

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Originally Posted by Kaze3434

it takes little to no thought to realize when to use a song.

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Exactly. Yet look at ST runs. 6+ Bards and not one singing foe...lol

Bards are like healers. If you're sitting on full MP and doing nothing with it, you're probably doing it wrong.

On that note, as a healer I always make sure I keep 30% MP in reserve. If I need ballad, I'll ask for it. I don't appreciate bards who think I'm too incompetent to manage my own MP and gimp their own damage to "help." If I'm burning MP DPSing, it's because I know I have MP to spare and I would rather have a Foe Req.

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Originally Posted by Black91CRX

Singing is part of my job. It's MY responsibility as a Bard to notice when Mages need MP or when Tanks/DPS could use some TP. Fighting a boss? Throw up Foe. Bottom line, if you aren't singing, you aren't playing your job correctly.

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The Bard that gives you the Job and tells you how he let his team down. You can see such a nice percentage of Bards follow in his footstep but never achieved his redeemed status.

Square-Enix should really allow someone in the party the ability to click on a Bard and force them into a song for 1g.

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Originally Posted by Gormogon

Square-Enix should really allow someone in the party the ability to click on a Bard and force them into a song for 1g.

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Like tipping a street performer.

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Originally Posted by Darki

Bards need to look at MP bars just like healers need to look at HP bars. It's not "right" or "wrong." It just is.

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Thing is Ballad should never be needed unless someone is doing something wrong or messed up them self through bad mp management standing in stuff. I would never look at MP bars when playing my bard because I focus on DPSing.