So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

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Originally Posted by Rita1989

Honesty making a subtle hint about Samurai without completely giving it away would be quite difficult so he went with something more obscure keeping with the marvel theme.

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Unless two things apply:

1) SAM features "Third Eye" which is Spider senses in a way
2) Samurai Spiderman is very popular in Japan

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Originally Posted by DBelmont

Because every other shirt so far had pointed out very obvious traits of the jobs. Batman and Scarlet Witch had to do with the name and 007 with the use of guns/gadgets. Now, implying the name of the director is unlike the previous hints and is more of a conspiracy theory.

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007 was a stretch for MCH as well. 007 was a spy by nature. MCH is anything but a spy.

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Originally Posted by Stitches1974

007 was a stretch for MCH as well. 007 was a spy by nature. MCH is anything but a spy.

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Yoshi said when he wore the shirt: "I like the guy with the golden gun". Therefore, he immediately pointed out the gun aspect and the agent theme had to do with the gadgets.

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Originally Posted by Stitches1974

007 was a stretch for MCH as well. 007 was a spy by nature. MCH is anything but a spy.

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Machinist and 007 both use guns and gadgets though.

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Originally Posted by jon041065

Machinist and 007 both use guns and gadgets though.

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MCH uses guns and turrets and not gadgets and is a further stretch than the batman and scarlet witch though. RDM is not even a witch. Now, if our chocobos had an ejector seat and shot rockets, it would have been less of a stretch =P

A bit of random question here that I cannot fully verify anywhere. Is the fanfest schedule made according to Germany time (CET)?

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Originally Posted by DBelmont

A bit of random question here that I cannot fully verify anywhere. Is the fanfest schedule made according to Germany time (CET)?

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All times are in MEZ (GMT+1). Please keep that in mind!


https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...rt_2017_event/

Isn't CET GMT+1?

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Originally Posted by DBelmont

Isn't CET GMT+1?

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Yes, it's listed as that in my post. All times are in MEZ (GMT+1)

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Originally Posted by DBelmont

Isn't CET GMT+1?

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For others too, but I find this website is helpful to share when talking/thinking about timezones, as you don't need to fill out drop downs or what have you: http://everytimezone.com/

UTC and GMT share the same times and both ignore DST (Daylight Savings), UTC was created to be used for all (Universal Time) and is not technically a timezone even though it shares time with GMT (UTC+1 == GMT+1).

Thank you both for the info. ^^

Now all I need is a means to speed up time 12 hours forward.

I hate to think about it but if its really only 2 classes that just means we are going to be stuck without Samurai & Dancer or Blue Mage & Samurai or Dancer & Bluemage for what about 2 years or so depending on how long till the next expansion

Also if Yoshi-P is massively trolling us >:[ Lets tease SAMURAI as hard as we can then not reveal so they have to wait till 5.0 trolololol

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Originally Posted by DBelmont

Thank you both for the info. ^^

Now all I need is a means to speed up time 12 hours forward.

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I wish. I can't wait for the news and updates as well.

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Originally Posted by DarkSlayerGrimm

I hate to think about it but if its really only 2 classes that just means we are going to be stuck without Samurai & Dancer or Blue Mage & Samurai or Dancer & Bluemage for what about 2 years or so depending on how long till the next expansion

Also if Yoshi-P is massively trolling us >:[ Lets tease SAMURAI as hard as we can then not reveal so they have to wait till 5.0 trolololol

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You have a point. This speculation has created so much hype on so many fronts that it will end up backfiring. Instead of actually making people engaged, it will end up leaving a portion disappointed. In my opinion, the worst possible backlash will be if there are only 2 jobs and SAM is not the one announced tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by DarkSlayerGrimm

I hate to think about it but if its really only 2 classes that just means we are going to be stuck without Samurai & Dancer or Blue Mage & Samurai or Dancer & Bluemage for what about 2 years or so depending on how long till the next expansion

Also if Yoshi-P is massively trolling us >:[ Lets tease SAMURAI as hard as we can then not reveal so they have to wait till 5.0 trolololol

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Not entirely true. IIRC Ninja was released mid expansion. Whose to say we won't be getting one mid expansion this time as well.

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Originally Posted by Shiro--Tsubasa

Not entirely true. IIRC Ninja was released mid expansion. Whose to say we won't be getting one mid expansion this time as well.

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The devs themselves, pretty much. They've talked about how splitting part of the team to work on NIN introduced a lot of difficulties because they had to divert them from Heavensward, straining both the half-team that had to develop and balance a job mid-expansion, AND the team that had to do more work to make up for their loss on the Heavensward team.

It's kind of like the Sch/Smn split, it sounds like something they experimented with but aren't inclined to repeat.

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Originally Posted by Shiro--Tsubasa

Not entirely true. IIRC Ninja was released mid expansion. Whose to say we won't be getting one mid expansion this time as well.

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who knows? I mean its possible theyd retract from never wanting to do that again, but its not like weirder stuff came out in the past like "rdm not gonna happen in this game because reasons"

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Originally Posted by Shiro--Tsubasa

Not entirely true. IIRC Ninja was released mid expansion. Whose to say we won't be getting one mid expansion this time as well.

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They pretty much said they won't do that again. Unless they don't release the 3rd class now and save it for mid expansion.

Regarding the release of Ninja as part of a patch and whether we could see something like that happen again, I was always under the impression the the stress on the development team was the result of working on four jobs within a limited time frame. I don't think they would have any issue with releasing a job during the 4.0 patch cycle if only two jobs had to meet the deadline for the expansion. Releasing three jobs for Stormblood is less work than what they had to do leading up to Heavensward and saving one job for a later patch would be even less work than that.

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Originally Posted by Blueyes

Regarding the release of Ninja as part of a patch and whether we could see something like that happen again, I was always under the impression the the stress on the development team was the result of working on four jobs within a limited time frame. I don't think they would have any issue with releasing a job during the 4.0 patch cycle if only two jobs had to meet the deadline for the expansion. Releasing three jobs for Stormblood is less work than what they had to do leading up to Heavensward and saving one job for a later patch would be even less work than that.

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yeah i agree, but then it will be same thing making a job, and working on new ones for the next expansion coming the following year, etc. Its like this endless vicious cycle :/

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Originally Posted by Shougun

It would be incredibly silly to not think about the market in every marketable activity you do in an mmorpg, and as you remove stats the stats left become more important to be divided intelligently. To make repeated simple mistakes like that would be troublesome, of course by themselves it wouldn't be a massive issue but would likely reveal small differences in price growing as demand (we already have that, purposely exaggerating differences would be worse - being mindful of what you have, or paying attention to rates is all you need though). It is definitely not nonissue but solutions available are quite simple (like adjusting rates of materia drops).

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I'm sorry but market activity on materia stats are just not anywhere near a big enough thing to prevent or alter their decision on jobs. Especially since you proposed it as a problem for main stat materia, of which not a single job actually uses aside from tanks using STR materia on their accessories. So a new job's main stat doesn't effect this market in any way because all their gear is already capped on their primary stats. After that it's secondary stats such as Accuracy, Determination, Skill/Spell Speed, and Crit, of which every job can and does use to varying degrees and adding new jobs isn't going to drastically shake up the market for these materias. Gear sets have a bigger impact on these things than actual jobs, as the materia desired is dependant on what stat you need more of depending on each sets, but I don't see you arguing for all the next armor sets to have exactly the same stat distribution so as not to disrupt the precious materia market.

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I have no doubts they'll add more FATEs and want people to partake in the new areas, but I do not like FATEs. They're a boring content, imo (due to the two common extremes, zerg or entirely vacant - in which both scenario FATEs have issue balancing well to). Would much rather have the best spam EXP source be PotD or dungeons (roulette makes them great for the first go at least).

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That's your opinion, just as mine is that PotD is boring content with close to zero strategy and mindlessly repetitive. It's a step up from simply grinding random monsters. Your opinion is not shared by everyone, just as mine isn't.

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Originally Posted by Shippuu

I'm sorry but market activity on materia stats are just not anywhere near a big enough thing to prevent or alter their decision on jobs. Especially since you proposed it as a problem for main stat materia, of which not a single job actually uses aside from tanks using STR materia on their accessories. So a new job's main stat doesn't effect this market in any way because all their gear is already capped on their primary stats. After that it's secondary stats such as Accuracy, Determination, Skill/Spell Speed, and Crit, of which every job can and does use to varying degrees and adding new jobs isn't going to drastically shake up the market for these materias. Gear sets have a bigger impact on these things than actual jobs, as the materia desired is dependant on what stat you need more of depending on each sets, but I don't see you arguing for all the next armor sets to have exactly the same stat distribution so as not to disrupt the precious materia market.

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You didn't really read what I had to say if this is your response. I said they should think about it but the options to solve are relatively simple, I already said in the very beginning it wouldn't alter simple choices due to the very simple solutions. However if aggravated then yeah it probably would, like if we had like 12 jobs on strength/intelligence and 1 on dexterity/mind then yeah it would actually have obvious effect on market and should therefore be on their decision what to do next. Also they do attempt to get people to use the main stat materias at varying times, such as certain quests, or accessories as you pointed out (main reason why Strength is ~500% more expensive than other main stats) - the demand at those points would exemplify their balance. I never said they couldn't make it unbalanced (only that drop rates being adjusted slightly would be useful), and if you're suggesting higher demand with same supply has no effect on a market... then yeah (Main stat materia definitely sell, consistently, so they have value - and strength is currently out of the norm).

All they need is to be mindful of the rates and what jobs need (obviously somethings never change like det/crit). That doesn't mean "oh no its not balanced, lets make a dex job now!" it just means you don't run around blind saying "nothing matters" as that's how you make mistakes. It also matters their group (gear group), but w.e I'm trying to explain what I've already said "simple issue, simple solution". And clearly you're set on thinking im banishing multiple stat desires in a row or something, which I've never attempted to say.

And the market should always be treated as precious, market is not some flippant thing you do whatever you want with when designing. All things are important. Always, that's why they hire dedicated economists in many MMOs.

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Originally Posted by Shippuu

That's your opinion, just as mine is that PotD is boring content with close to zero strategy and mindlessly repetitive. It's a step up from simply grinding random monsters. Your opinion is not shared by everyone, just as mine isn't.

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I said in that thing you quoted imo, so clearly i m o...

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Originally Posted by ADVSS

who knows? I mean its possible theyd retract from never wanting to do that again, but its not like weirder stuff came out in the past like "rdm not gonna happen in this game because reasons"

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Indeed, they were once said that red make is hard to fit in tank, healer, dps role. As RDM are support job in FF series.
Major in spells such as slow, paralyze, blind, phalanx and etc.
They made it happened now.

Besides, if battle system is changing, it might mean that Blue Mage could be able to become 1st multi-role job. (YouTube shows many of FF11 Blue Mage as Tank, DPS, or even Healer)

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Originally Posted by Pompompar

Indeed, they were once said that red make is hard to fit in tank, healer, dps role. As RDM are support job in FF series.
Major in spells such as slow, paralyze, blind, phalanx and etc.
They made it happened now.

Besides, if battle system is changing, it might mean that Blue Mage could be able to become 1st multi-role job. (YouTube shows many of FF11 Blue Mage as Tank, DPS, or even Healer)

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Im right there with you! Obviously the role system will limit a job, but its not impossible to get it to fit. And I'll always believe that

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Originally Posted by mosaicex

Did you forget about the already announced Red Mage DPS?

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I actually think there's a chance of 4 jobs. But if it's only three, then I would say SAM won't be in and it will be BLU tank, DNC healer and RDM dps.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

I actually think there's a chance of 4 jobs. But if it's only three, then I would say SAM won't be in and it will be BLU tank, DNC healer and RDM dps.

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I'm thinking 4 jobs as well. If only to be optimistic. I'm not going to guess roles, as I think SAM and BLU can fit DPS or Tank. But I think we might see RDM, BLU, SAM and DNC.

RDM-Ranged Caster
SAM-Tank
BLU-Melee Caster

That will be it, I got a feelin' in me bones. It will be so

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Originally Posted by Daegar

RDM-Ranged Caster
SAM-Tank
BLU-Melee Caster

That will be it, I got a feelin' in me bones. It will be so

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As much as im sure alot of people want sam, im leaning 50/50 Sam/Blu as tank. I prefer Blu myself. If they do indeed stick to the "Only 2 new jobs for stormblood." If they surprise us with 3, then im going:

RDM - Ranged DPS
DNC - Support Healer
BLU - Tank

When was dancer ever hinted? Just curious

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Originally Posted by Critical-Limit

When was dancer ever hinted? Just curious

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Some people believe the girl in the teaser trailer is actually a dancer, and not a monk.

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Originally Posted by TarynH

Some people believe the girl in the teaser trailer is actually a dancer, and not a monk.

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Oh... >.>. Thank you

Spiderman swings from web to web. It's obvious it's dancer since swing is a type of dance.

All is soon to be revealed...

Please look forward to it!

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Originally Posted by TarynH

All is soon to be revealed...

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I just woke up went to sleep early so I can watch :) can't wait so soon

I should've gotten both tissues and popcorn ready for this XD

Less than an hour for WW3.

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Originally Posted by DBelmont

Less than an hour for WW3.

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#notmyjob!

The possibilities for salt are endless at this point. :D

IT'S HAPPENING, EVERYONE!

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