Airship Guide

I may be wrong but I'm fairly certain 18 does not unlock 24, only 21 does. Other than that, good work on the map.

FYI,

Shark-class submarine parts:

https://imgur.com/lKX34Ba

Unkiu-class submarine parts:

https://imgur.com/a/y54Zb

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Thank you greatly for this.
Now, SE stated these would be "easier" to make than airships. Whelp, they look to have exactly the same difficulty. All hail darksteel, and take a good snort of Coke, again.

Not sure if anyone's going to start a Submarine Guide, but thought I'd post here.

Ivory Shoals - Wind Crystals & Dexterity II ; Unlocked Deep-sea Site 2
Deep-sea Site 1 - Quicktongue II & Battledance III ; Unlocked Lightless Basin

Both Deep-sea Site 2 and Lightless Basin are Rank 4

https://i.imgur.com/glxeQJZ.png

The Ivory Shoals brought back 17 Vitality II Materias
The Deep Site 1 brought back 30 Battledance II materias


Shouldn't we have a new thread for this?

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Originally Posted by Suirieko

Shouldn't we have a new thread for this?

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We do. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...rmation-Thread

So anyone think SE will bother to update the Airships or Airship Ventures? I would love to actually have an airship taskforce that wasn't a mish-mash of different parts. Maybe a full Viltglance or Tatanora is overpowered, but if they aren't going to add new sectors why not let us assemble complete airships?

I like this idea.

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Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer

I may be wrong but I'm fairly certain 18 does not unlock 24, only 21 does. Other than that, good work on the map.

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Shoot, yes you're right! I'll amend that.

Got some cloudsbreath seeds from sector 24 in case it hasn't been noted before. Didn't see it on the main list. Love this page btw. It's been super helpful for my FC.

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Originally Posted by Inzoum

Final information about airship and workshop after moving to a new house

You lose all progress

That is... Your sector discoveries and company crafting logs are tied to the estate hall's workshop, and not the Free Company itself. These are not carried over when you destroy the workshop and move. This is a little counter intuitive because you'd think knowledge is immaterial, like known sectors and recipes, you think you would keep that with you as you move, but nope.

- Extra unlocked airship slots are lost
- Airship rank is reset upon dismantling, but parts are recovered in inventory
- Sector discoveries are lost
- Unlocked workshop prototypes are lost and need to be unlocked again

On the bright side, we already had a lot of leftover items for unlocking the prototypes again, and we know know how to unlock second airship again, so we can rush towards that.

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Do you lose your airships when you break down the workshop? If so it would make sense you lose all that data because its tied to the specific ships.

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Originally Posted by Palindrome3D

Do you lose your airships when you break down the workshop? If so it would make sense you lose all that data because its tied to the specific ships.

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That post was from long before the move feature existed. There's no need to destroy the house to move locations now and all the workshop stuff is carried over to the new house.

In order to keep your workshop progress when moving house you need to relocate your building. If you destroy your house and buy a new one then yes you will lose all workshop progress.

I've looked and cannot find reliable nor recent information on this: What are the best airship stats for obtaining dusk leather? Does any sector stand out as more reliable?

I was hoping subs would eventually have a sector, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

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Originally Posted by ThistleChaser

One of our ships hit level 42, running the two highest level zones, and "Flicking Dip" zone was unlocked. Even with a full set of previously highest level parts (before 4.5 dropped), we don't have the stats to go there.

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You'll want to post in the submersible thread for that, this one's for airships. Note that it's not your parts holding you back from going to the new zone, your submersible has to be level 47 before it can go there.

Ah thank you!

i have two airships i been sending to 21 for a month now one is 98 surv and 94 surv is there a magic number to discover sector 24

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Originally Posted by sydneyf

i have two airships i been sending to 21 for a month now one is 98 surv and 94 surv is there a magic number to discover sector 24

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It's really RNG based. For some people it takes one trip, for others it takes much longer. Just keep hitting that sector and it should open up for you eventually.

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Originally Posted by sydneyf

i have two airships i been sending to 21 for a month now one is 98 surv and 94 surv is there a magic number to discover sector 24

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Increasing your surv. higher would probably give you a better chance at discovering the zones. Shoot for 135 or higher.

Not new information, but I thought I'd post the results of my fit here anyway.

1x Iron Voyage Spoil and 20x Minium found in Sector 24. Shiptype Invincible/Enterprise/Odyssey/Odyssey.

https://i.imgur.com/0QXbnhQ.png

I figured it was worth mentioning in this thread is because a similar approach to this fit was made using information expanded upon in the Submersibles thread. The following is what we know about ship stats:

• Surveillance: Influences which items drop from the loot table per sector (Rarer items have minimum requirements). May also influence the discovery of new sectors.
• Retrieval: Influences the extraction rate of a dropped item. Affected by weather effects.
• Speed: Influences the duration of a voyage.
• Range: Influences the distance a ship may travel during a voyage.
• Favor: Influences the number of anomalies detected at a single destination.

Another fact that we know is that was already speculated in this thread is that Optimal Retrieval has the chance of yielding 2 Iron Voyage Spoils and that it is influenced by the Retrieval stat.

So, what does that mean for the Iron Voyage Spoil? Based on what I've studied in reports in this thread, the minimum Surveillance for the Iron Voyage Spoil sits at about 110 Surveillance. Assuming good weather rng, the minimum Retrieval required to proc an Optimal Retrieval is at about 115 Retrieval. Finally, 105 Favor seems to be the same threshold for double anomaly spawns as it is with Submersibles, but it's very easy to achieve due to how ship parts work with Airships.

The two ships I would suggest for farming Iron Voyage Spoils would be as follows:

Invincible/Enterprise/Odyssey/Odyssey

A little on the minimalist side when it comes to stats, it meets the requirements to make Optimal Retrievals of Iron Voyage Spoils. With enough range to travel from Sector 24 to one other high-end Sector, this ship can make relatively quick work of any item you wish to farm.

• Stats:
  110 Surveillance, 118 Retrieval, 82 Speed, 76 Range, 122 Favor
• Routes:
  Sector 7 > Sector 24 = 1 Day, 21 Hours, 15 Minutes
  Sector 24 = 1 Day, 15 Hours, 13 Minutes
  Sector 24 > Sector 23 = 2 Days, 16 Hours, 10 Minutes

Bronco/Invincible/Tatanora/Tatanora

Very similar to the Frugal Freighter in components, it trades Speed and a small amount of Range for more Retrieval. The larger amount of Retrieval compared to the previously listed ship fit makes it a bit more resistant to weather effects reducing its yield, allowing it to more consistently land Optimal Retrievals on Iron Voyage Spoils.

• Stats:
  120 Surveillance, 136 Retrieval, 64 Speed, 66 Range, 140 Favor
• Routes:
  Sector 7 > Sector 24 = 2 Days, 6 Hours, 37 Minutes
  Sector 24 = 1 Day, 22 Hours, 52 Minutes

Iron Giant Core - Sector 14.

Posted because not listed for that sector.

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Has anyone heard if we'll get a third type of voyages or if the existing ones will be expanded?

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Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer

Has anyone heard if we'll get a third type of voyages or if the existing ones will be expanded?

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Haven't heard anything yet. Submarines weren't released until a couple of patches into Stormblood either, so we probably wont hearing about new ships for another 6 months or so. With regards to expanding the new map, we don't usually find out until the night of the patch if something is being added for those either.

Still waiting on SE to grant single player owned FCs the chance to build w/o having to ask for help... Can build anything else by ourselves but not ships?

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Originally Posted by Norri_Matora

Haven't heard anything yet. Submarines weren't released until a couple of patches into Stormblood either, so we probably wont hearing about new ships for another 6 months or so. With regards to expanding the new map, we don't usually find out until the night of the patch if something is being added for those either.

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Subs were a announced months before SB released but new locations aren't usually mentioned until patch notes drop. I'll be a bit disappointed if there's nothing planned.

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Originally Posted by Niurok

Still waiting on SE to grant single player owned FCs the chance to build w/o having to ask for help... Can build anything else by ourselves but not ships?

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This is a rather annoying feature, why even have people there to literally stand there and do nothing? How does it benefit other players to literally sit there as you toss materials into the machine? Granted i help out with this whenever possible because ive needed help, but it seems like a pointless feature to even exist since they dont need to be a part of the FC.

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Was lost on page 6.

Is there a Discord for submarines?

Is there a Discord for submarines?

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Originally Posted by yosment

Is there a Discord for submarines?

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Check the bottom of the 2nd post in the submersible thread.

Bump time again.

I know this question is probably somewhere in the 145 pages of this forum but, does anyone know a good build for farming dusk leather? I just can't seem to get much of it. I think we have gotten one piece in 2 months.

Bump!

This and the submarine thread really should be stickys.

Bump. Plz sticky this

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I know this question is probably somewhere in the 145 pages of this forum but, does anyone know a good build for farming dusk leather? I just can't seem to get much of it. I think we have gotten one piece in 2 months.

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According to https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Dusk_Leather there are 6 sectors where it drops.

Page 1, Nyalia's post, Endgame Ship Designs, The Frugal Flier - Maximum Retrieval, moderately high Survey and Range, minimum Speed should be your best bet but look at them all.

Just thought I'd share this little upgrade I did to the original airship part calculator on the first page. Been toying with airships again cuz subs were getting boring, and I couldn't find anything online that included the Viltgance parts, so I just added their data to the calculator myself!

https://www.espritduo.com/updated_ai...alculator.html

Note: This is exactly the same calculator as the first one, I don't claim any of the original code or anything, I just added the Viltgance data to the internal data array and changed the title to reflect that, nothing else. Enjoy!

I'm bringing this thread back from the dead cause I am having difficulty finding a proper item guide for voyages. Do you guys have anything for this? I am scouring this thread and I can only see like stuff said in threads and that's it. I just want to get the craftable stuff for clothes and whatnot, uggh why can't the guide have everything for items like the submersible one.

If I am missing something i will gladly take any form of assistance.

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Originally Posted by Pandie_Goodies

I'm bringing this thread back from the dead cause I am having difficulty finding a proper item guide for voyages. Do you guys have anything for this? I am scouring this thread and I can only see like stuff said in threads and that's it. I just want to get the craftable stuff for clothes and whatnot, uggh why can't the guide have everything for items like the submersible one.

If I am missing something i will gladly take any form of assistance.

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What specific information are you looking for that is missing? The loot table toward the bottom of the first page is still accurate as far as I know.

The FFXIV Submarine Builders Discord also has some links to airship information as well as all the submersible info if you want to give that a try.

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Originally Posted by Pandie_Goodies

I'm bringing this thread back from the dead cause I am having difficulty finding a proper item guide for voyages. Do you guys have anything for this? I am scouring this thread and I can only see like stuff said in threads and that's it. I just want to get the craftable stuff for clothes and whatnot, uggh why can't the guide have everything for items like the submersible one.

If I am missing something i will gladly take any form of assistance.

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I did a some of the work for a proper item guide for it, but work have been halted for now because new submarine content is out. I have compiled everything here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1894926908
But it is still incomplete. You can join the FFXIV Submarine Builders discord server if want to know more.