I miss the old PvP.

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Originally Posted by FelipePF

I Wonder why they changed it. It seems that no one likes the new PvP. I mean, you have only like 8 skills, it's just sad.

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SE keeps trying to attract casual players...at the cost of the actual PvP players. It's a shame, but every season they make it more and more "inviting" to new players...then they still can't figure out how to burst so they quit anyway.

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Originally Posted by FelipePF

I Wonder why they changed it. It seems that no one likes the new PvP. I mean, you have only like 8 skills, it's just sad.

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If you thought the bard you had in feast was bad, imagine a bard who doesn't have wanderer's up, can't use half his burst, and his normal skills do less damage than the summoner's egi. He does this to get rid of casting times for his attacks.

If you think that healer you had sucked, imagine them getting stunlocked and killed in seconds, and the game ending in a minute because they quickly wiped everyone else, and just needed one more kill to win.

A lot of the old kit didn't really work well with pvp for most people. The skilled players like it, but it was incredibly easy for most people to be ineffective because it was harder overall to do damage and to use burst. I mean, many classes had four buttons devoted to dps up buffs alone, and that's not counting attacks that did percentage up or reduced resistance that were stand alone.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

If you think that healer you had sucked, imagine them getting stunlocked and killed in seconds, and the game ending in a minute because they quickly wiped everyone else, and just needed one more kill to win.

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PvP that required skill? Can't have that.

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Originally Posted by Kisama

PvP that required skill? Can't have that.

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Exactly my thoughts, haha

I'm not the biggest fan of PvP. Honestly only really got into it, to get all the Garo sets. But I definitely had a better time, when I had full access to my abilities. Right now it's way too dumbed down and I always need to readjust to the hotbar, when I go from PvE into PvP.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

A lot of the new kit doesn't really work well with pvp for most people.

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I fixed it. Because people still can't do burst.

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Originally Posted by Kisama

PvP that required skill? Can't have that.

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Did you like instalosing Feast because you got matched with an unranked healer who got murdered and your skill meant nothing? Because that happened. Oh, and healers were pretty rare, so until said healer quit playing, you often lost multiple matches. And queues tanked because of that.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

Did you like instalosing Feast because you got matched with an unranked healer who got murdered and your skill meant nothing? Because that happened. Oh, and healers were pretty rare, so until said healer quit playing, you often lost multiple matches. And queues tanked because of that.

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If feast was so horrible why are queues now falling off with the new system, whereas previously people would queue all season? Sure the rank system has some impact but also it is less enjoyable.

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Originally Posted by Wintersandman

If feast was so horrible why are queues now falling off with the new system, whereas previously people would queue all season? Sure the rank system has some impact but also it is less enjoyable.

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Since season 4, you need to non-stop queue Feast at first 3 weeks to get rank high enough or queue slow down/dies starting 4th week.
This including do not do anything with your FC or friends and just solo queue Feast mode.
This season is worst because of Eureka and basically murdered Feast queue too, it is not fully because of the 4.0 pvp system.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

Since season 4, you need to non-stop queue Feast at first 3 weeks to get rank high enough or queue slow down/dies starting 4th week.
This including do not do anything with your FC or friends and just solo queue Feast mode.
This season is worst because of Eureka and basically murdered Feast queue too, it is not fully because of the 4.0 pvp system.

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I didn't attribute to solely 4.0 but noticeably people are complaining about Feast queues and drop off is more pronounced since 4.0. There is a reason for that and it is not like the PvE content is anymore exciting.