The Letter is up

Crazy how disappointing it is to see him give himself an extra 2 weeks of wiggle room without telling us (changing his guess from mid-June to late-June without saying anything until letter XI), then overstepping it by another 2 weeks. I don't see how that's acceptable to anyone.

He keeps saying how this will be the biggest patch to date, but that's not even saying much since our biggest patch before this wasn't "big" by any means.

3 months for one patch? Enough is enough.

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Originally Posted by Biggs

While I agree that it will be done when its done, as a current player, its hard to relax about when its done when they give false dates (or any dates at all) for when THEY think something will be done.

Its funny, most of us have been saying for years (from back during ffxi even) that Se needs to have more PR and inform the players whats going on more, but now that they are, I kinda wish they would just shut up lol. I like being in the loop to an extent but, they are way better off saying such and such will be ready when its ready than saying ambiguous statements like "mid-june at the earliest". Whether we want it to or not people, that sort of thing creates a false expectation that leads to the kind of dissapointment that fuels this current thread.

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this is why se should only listen to a handful of forum goers because like this guy most of you people have no clue what you want

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Originally Posted by LateReg

Crazy how disappointing it is to see him give himself an extra 2 weeks of wiggle room without telling us (changing his guess from mid-June to late-June without saying anything until letter XI), then overstepping it by another 2 weeks. I don't see how that's acceptable to anyone.

He keeps saying how this will be the biggest patch to date, but that's not even saying much since our biggest patch before this wasn't "big" by any means.

3 months for one patch? Enough is enough.

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His original mid-June guess was stated as at the earliest. This was pretty clear to anybody who bothered to read the words that were published. He did not change his guess- the wiggle room was built into his original statement.

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Originally Posted by Lerris

His original mid-June guess was stated as at the earliest. This was pretty clear to anybody who bothered to read the words that were published. He did not change his guess- the wiggle room was built into his original statement.

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There is no sense in trying to reason with them.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

There is no sense in trying to reason with them.

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the concerns of people leaving will be valid when people start paying, and not before.

I think it should consider advertisement when its ready for subs, as not even panels at gaming conventions are helping it. Hosts intentionally avoid talking about the mmos, preferring instead "ooh what should they remake next!"

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Originally Posted by Kallera

the concerns of people leaving will be valid when people start paying, and not before.

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Exactly.

The deadline for making the game enjoyable, as far as I'm concerned, is the day they start charging subscription fees.

I personally don't care how long the update takes as long as it fixes a lot and for the good; at least Yoshi-P said its gonna take 2 weeks than nothing at all would of made more people pissed off so I think what he did was alright.

Now him saying this going to be the biggest patch... he better be right, both JP and NA forums talking now about 1.18 being the straw to leave or stay in FFXIV, pretty sure French and German side also got similar topics going around.

If what Yoshi-P is saying about 1.18 is just like the stupid poem released in what?? December last year? January this year? that made no sense at all... then I don't see much future for FFXIV and the dev staff I was hoping that will drastically change this game. It may happen but it's going to take much much longer than what most of us would of expected. I don't blame the new dev teams though, first off they shouldn't of used Crystal Engine in the first place, second they are picking up what the first dev team did/screwed up... I don't know whats their company policy on programming and writing proper notes on code so it's changeable in future with other devs but programming other peoples codes sometimes can be a major headache.

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Originally Posted by DNO

this is why se should only listen to a handful of forum goers because like this guy most of you people have no clue what you want

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Actually, as a current player, I have posted a pretty clear and defined expectation of what I want that I think is reasonable and well thought out. Its a paste over post from one I made on the CORE and its on page 35 of this thread. Its easier to be snide than it is to offer well thought out opinions about what you want. As evidenced by most of your posts.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

I personally don't care how long the update takes as long as it fixes a lot and for the good; at least Yoshi-P said its gonna take 2 weeks than nothing at all would of made more people pissed off so I think what he did was alright.

Now him saying this going to be the biggest patch... he better be right, both JP and NA forums talking now about 1.18 being the straw to leave or stay in FFXIV, pretty sure French and German side also got similar topics going around.

If what Yoshi-P is saying about 1.18 is just like the stupid poem released in what?? December last year? January this year? that made no sense at all... then I don't see much future for FFXIV and the dev staff I was hoping that will drastically change this game. It may happen but it's going to take much much longer than what most of us would of expected. I don't blame the new dev teams though, first off they shouldn't of used Crystal Engine in the first place, second they are picking up what the first dev team did/screwed up... I don't know whats their company policy on programming and writing proper notes on code so it's changeable in future with other devs but programming other peoples codes sometimes can be a major headache.

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Thanks for the news on the JP players, please keep us up to date!

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Originally Posted by Biggs

Actually, as a current player, I have posted a pretty clear and defined expectation of what I want that I think is reasonable and well thought out. Its a paste over post from one I made on the CORE and its on page 35 of this thread. Its easier to be snide than it is to offer well thought out opinions about what you want. As evidenced by most of your posts.

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That post is neither reasonable or well thought out, I am sorry to say.