Binding Coil of Bahamut Discussion

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Originally Posted by SolRising

So by your book if someone finds out they can shoplift from a store because their alarm sensor or tag was not working then later they realized they were on camera and went back to the store and apologized and asked if they coild return the goods and reported their alarm sensor broken should have no punishment at all huh? Man I\\\\\\\\'d love to see that in the real world.

No one is witch hunting crap don\\\\\\\\'t even try to justify exploiting a bug. Since when was it ever okay to exploit this type of bug especially on the hardesr boss in the game ? Just because your morales are messed up and you don\\\\\\\\'t see a problem with exploiting a bug don\\\\\\\\'t try to make it seem like its okay and then call everyone else insane for not taking advantage of the situation . The majority of people would not do it. If I had a chance to do that I would not.

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your logic is faulty. You compare apples to oranges and cry that they aren't bananas.

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Originally Posted by Raiz_Cineris

Game =/= Real life.

Get in touch with reality. Last I checked, when I tried to ride around on a chicken, I didn't get anywhere

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Exactly. If you are going to judge someones morality, make it something worth judging.

So they tagged the quest after T5, aka Bahamut fight?
So now they have a chance to down Bahamut "legit" for world first?
OK then.

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Originally Posted by Cousinjimmy

So they tagged the quest after T5, aka Bahamut fight?
So now they have a chance to down Bahamut "legit" for world first?
OK then.

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Check your fact, There is no Bahamut fight yet.

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Originally Posted by Medieval

your logic is faulty. You compare apples to oranges and cry that they aren't bananas.



Exactly. If you are going to judge someones morality, make it something worth judging.

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I don't need to compare apples to oranges. Exploiting a bug does not need an excuse to be justified. Just stop trying to make it seem like what you would personally do is the right thing to do. You are only making you and the rest of your fc and ls look worse by supporting people who abuse exploits and bugs. If you don't care then please continue to do so.

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Originally Posted by SolRising

I don't need to compare apples to oranges. Exploiting a bug does not need an excuse to be justified. Just stop trying to make it seem like what you would personally do is the right thing to do. You are only making you and the rest of your fc and ls look worse by supporting people who abuse exploits and bugs. If you don't care then please continue to do so.

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I believe I am conducting myself just fine with my opinions. Thank you for your concerns, but honestly don't speak to me like I am doing my FC wrong. I do not believe they are exploiting a bug, they reported it and made it known on a public forum that they are willing to submit to a rollback and loss of loot. I don't think any action needs to be taken besides said rollback/loss of loot. I am curious though, is my opinion so unacceptable that it has no merit? Are you the god child that knows everything and those who dare speak in opposition deserve no voice?

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Originally Posted by Medieval

I believe I am conducting myself just fine with my opinions. Thank you for your concerns, but honestly don't speak to me like I am doing my FC wrong. I do not believe they are exploiting a bug, they reported it and made it known on a public forum that they are willing to submit to a rollback and loss of loot. I don't think any action needs to be taken besides said rollback/loss of loot. I am curious though, is my opinion so unacceptable that it has no merit? Are you the god child that knows everything and those who dare speak in opposition deserve no voice?

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Not attacking you or anything, but judging about what they said with the chimera/hydra bug, in a sense don't the same rules apply here? I mean, freezing at 80% then continuing to kill it, and then even announcing it to the public (where it's could've stayed quiet), wouldn't it have even easier just not to kill it, and report the issue?
I guess each to their own but from my pov they abused it.

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Originally Posted by Medieval

I believe I am conducting myself just fine with my opinions. Thank you for your concerns, but honestly don't speak to me like I am doing my FC wrong. I do not believe they are exploiting a bug, they reported it and made it known on a public forum that they are willing to submit to a rollback and loss of loot. I don't think any action needs to be taken besides said rollback/loss of loot. I am curious though, is my opinion so unacceptable that it has no merit? Are you the god child that knows everything and those who dare speak in opposition deserve no voice?

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Voice your opinion however you like but if you are going to personally quote me then don't get butt hurt when I do the same. Did I say i was the "god child"? Keep up with the insults that has no relevance to the topic. Trust me you have already given yourself and your fc/ls a huge bad rep by supporting this exploit. Feel free to continue though.

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Originally Posted by Phaus

Not attacking you or anything, but judging about what they said with the chimera/hydra bug, in a sense don't the same rules apply here? I mean, freezing at 80% then continuing to kill it, and then even announcing it to the public (where it's could've stayed quiet), wouldn't it have even easier just not to kill it, and report the issue?
I guess each to their own but from my pov they abused it.

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Only hindsight is 20/20. Make no mistake, I believe they'll get banned for this regardless based on how SE has dealt with this sort of thing before, I don't think they should however.

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Originally Posted by SolRising

Voice your opinion however you like but if you are going to personally quote me then don't get butt hurt when I do the same. Did I say i was the "god child"? Keep up with the insults that has no relevance to the topic. Trust me you have already given yourself and your fc/ls a huge bad rep by supporting this exploit. Feel free to continue though.

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They obviously knew what they were doing was wrong, there's no need to debate that. They went ahead and did it anyways, probably just to see what came next - I'd be tempted to do the same. They at least made a ticket and reported it, i'm sure they'll accept the consequences of their actions if SE decide to deploy the ban hammer - which based on their Chimaera/Hydra bug stance they will.

Let Squeenix decide what actions they want to take.
I could understand if this boss was a gateway to another encounter (which it doesn't seem to be - just more lore), so I really don't see any fault if they claim the kill to not be legitimate.