Forcing players to pay to keep housing is unfair.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

I mean, we get a bazillion threads every other week on here and other sites complaining about how crappy the housing in FFXIV is. I think that would mean the issue is significant enough that the devs need to look further into it, and do something about it. Something more than just the bread crumbs they've given us. (Just can't with those apartments... step in the right direction, but they're basically an FC room...)

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Indeed. Aside from the glamour log, this housing issues are some of the most-repeated complaints on this forum.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

Indeed. Aside from the glamour log, this housing issues are some of the most-repeated complaints on this forum.

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Agreed. Sadly, I suspect they won't do anything for a while. Housing is less an issue on smaller servers and it almost seems like they want that to be an incentive to not transfer.

Is really bad house system with so much limit. I agree
But to be fair.... FFXIV is a game with high pretty graphics.

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House ward zone is pretty huge data transfer back to back from server to you.

Why can there is so many apartment?
Apartment is same as FFXI moghouse/ingame INN is a small instance cast a lot less data.

Limit house = More content/minion/mount/gears ingame. So I can´t really blame SE with this house system.

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Originally Posted by Zojha

I would just like to point out the irony of this statement on the Final Fantasy XIV forums in the context of the history of Final Fantasy XIV.

That is all.

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SE got lucky with it. Just like how Nintendo initially scored with the Wii. Only reason they did it was because a competent developer knew how he could make the game popular, and SE saw a long term investment gain from it. The plan was to emulate WoW and make it a big love letter to everything Final Fantasy. SE wouldn't have done it if they didn't know how to save this game nor if they thought that it wouldn't have resulted in a long term gain. Nintendo knew the Virtual Boy was a failure and they didn't know how to fix it. They didn't see any gain from it so they dropped it.

SE doesn't see the housing issue as a huge deal at the moment. If players REALLY wanted housing so bad, there wouldn't be any open plots on dead servers like Goblin or Zaelra. SE knows this so rather than pour resources into something that they don't even have a plan for, they leave it and instead put resources into projects that they know will work.

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Originally Posted by ToasterMan

If players REALLY wanted housing so bad, there wouldn't be any open plots on dead servers like Goblin or Zaelra.

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Once again trying to use either a server's lack of population or players' reluctance/inability to make use of a really terrible system as evidence that it's not worth improving... That's absurd.

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Originally Posted by Naunet

Once again trying to use either a server's lack of population or players' reluctance/inability to make use of a really terrible system as evidence that it's not worth improving... That's absurd.

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Oh no I'm not saying that's right at all. I firmly believe that housing should be available no matter what server you're on to everyone. I'm just saying that's how SE probably sees it and they think it isn't an issue at all, when in reality it's a very big flaw that the game has compared to other games.

The only way I think SE is going to get the message is if someone prepares a question explaining the situation and has it presented at a Q&A session. Remember that really great question that was asked about WHM last time? Something like that. It would need to be live so that SE is forced to say something about it.

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Originally Posted by ToasterMan

The only way I think SE is going to get the message is if someone prepares a question explaining the situation and has it presented at a Q&A session. Remember that really great question that was asked about WHM last time? Something like that. It would need to be live so that SE is forced to say something about it.

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I want to do this. D:

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Originally Posted by Dualgunner

Nope, sadly.

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If it was an FC estate, FC members entering it resets the timer. Why can't the same be done to personal estates? Having your friend enter in your place should reset the timer if you share your estate with him.

I have to say that the housing system in this game is quite possibly (not saying it is) one of most punishing Housing systems (or at least just the Demolition part of it) I've seen in a MMO.. I mean For FC's, the FC Leader = Owner of the house.. Though despite that anyone can reset the timer but it doesn't work that way for personal houses which is odd and don't see why it shouldn't work both ways.. it kinda defeats (or actually does) the purporse of giving others access to your house lol Would be nice if they had some kinda of in-game protection fee/Insurance/Rent/Property Tax?? Something to help protect your place should you inactivate your account for a little to take a break. (lol Feels sorta like extortion only legal xD) It's hard seeing new players ask about the housing in this game only to watch there reactions turn to uninterest when they hear how it works lol I feel for the OP but as it stands now, those are the rules set for the game. And if we can get enough people to stop bashing each others opinions then maybe something will get done. until then only thing that can be done right now is deal with it

Meanwhile....back on Balmung...

The things I would do to get a different housing area for Free Companies and individual members. It bums people out when they learn about housing but--NOPE, CHUCK TESTA--I can't count on my hands and toes how many places on Balmung have single-player mansions all to themselves while 80 man Free Companies have small plots to share amongst one another. Doesn't really make much sense, when you think about it. Imo? There ought to be FC-specific Wards comprised entirely of medium and large-scale houses that are accessible only if your Free Company has made it to a certain rank with their respective allied nation.

Let the rich people have their mansions on their own wards, sure...but I personally believe that Guild Housing ought to be a staple in MMOs, and it is entirely puzzling how Square hasn't pulled this off yet, when so many less qualified and equipped companies have.