Can you please Ease Up on Atma now?

I always found funny how those against a change to atma drop rate also happen to be those who got lucky, and also happen to be those who don't understand there's no skill in rng or doing lvl 10 fates (no fun either)

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Originally Posted by Alukah

I always found funny how those against a change to atma drop rate also happen to be those who got lucky, and also happen to be those who don't understand there's no skill in rng or doing lvl 10 fates (no fun either)

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No one ever accused Atma farming of being fun. It's a measure of determination. It takes a certain mindset to get in there and spend your entire evening doing nothing but FATEs. The reason so many people are resistant to SE changing the drops of Atma, is because those people actually got in there and worked hard for their Atma. Some people got lucky and finished within 12 hours. Some people (like myself) had to spend the greater part of 5+ days, doing nothing but running from FATE to FATE, to get all 12 Atma.

I'm more convinced that the people complaining about the drop rates just aren't putting in the time they need in order to get their Atma. 1-2 hours a day isn't going to cut it. You need to grab a drink, fix a sandwich, pull up Netflix, and devote your evening to it in order to get it done. That's how I finished both of my relic weapons.

It's one of the reasons I unsubbed. I check back periodically to see if it has changed because at one time I really did enjoy the game. Atma grinding kind of ruined that for me. Until it does change, I'll take my money elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Fyce

If that's true, it means that the Relic quest line is already not worth doing for a lot of people.

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It is not.
You should only do it if you like the looks and want it as a vanity item.

Far easier to get a weapon for stones if you're after the stat-stick.

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Originally Posted by Mikey_R

What is stopping the nerf from being in 2.4? Atmas are going to be outdated content by then, trailing behind the new ilevel increase. they need something to help them catch up, and an increase in the Atmas is the way to go. They do still need to go through the Animus, Novus and Nexus grind first as well, so it isn't like they will get an instant i115 weapon in a week after the drop increase. There is no reason to hold people back and they shouldn't.

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Essentially there's no reason why it couldn't be in 2.4. It's just highly unlikely due to there not being announcement on the topic as of yet.

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Originally Posted by Raxion

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So you have masochistic tendencies, good for you, I'd personally rather keep that out of the game tho. If they went with your mindset for every content they could slap a 3000 atma requirement to unlock third coil and you would be fine with it, because "it's a measure of determination". Lie to yourself all you want but this isn't a measure of determination if all you do is barely pay attention to the game, auto attack fates and switch to Netflix. This is a game, if you want boring grind to replace the fun go get a real job.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

I really don't see them continuing the Relic in 3.0.
Read somewhere that 2.4 is supposed to be the last big patch with a raid tier, so... they don't need to worry about that.

@max: have fun ^^

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2.4 ties up our current raid content yes, but that doesn't mean they won't be creating a new one later. that's the thing with 'endgame' mmos are always growing, so the endgame shifts and evolves. Terrible term for it really.

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Originally Posted by Riion

It's one of the reasons I unsubbed. I check back periodically to see if it has changed because at one time I really did enjoy the game. Atma grinding kind of ruined that for me. Until it does change, I'll take my money elsewhere.

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You unsubbed because of the Atma drop rate? You do realize you didn't need to do the weapon, right? No one needs this weapon. It is an alternative to other weapons available (other than the sheer fact it can now go up to i115 but that doesn't make or break the game) through different grind methods (Hunts, Coil, etc).

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Originally Posted by Raxion

The reason so many people are resistant to SE changing the drops of Atma, is because those people actually got in there and worked hard for their Atma.

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Then why is the most common argument "I got mine in a few hours, you just aren't trying hard enough".

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I'm more convinced that the people complaining about the drop rates just aren't putting in the time they need in order to get their Atma. 1-2 hours a day isn't going to cut it.

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and way to restate the same damn argument.

bite it.

When you run with a woman who frustrates herself sick for hours of a day every day for several weeks, then you get to hold a valid opinion to this discussion.

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Originally Posted by Kaelah

When I said relic weapons are meant to be hard to get, I meant just that. Not that atma are hard. I also said I'm glad it takes some time. Like the atma take time. Nothing about grinding low level FATEs is hard. @_@ Poor choice of words ok lol.

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If you read my posts on the subject, you would see that I suggest it actually takes LONGER to complete. Right now, on average, it takes 10-15 hours of fate grinding to get your Atma Weapon. My suggestion would put it at 15-30 hours. Doubling or Tripling the time it takes.

The difference being that it would be 15-30 hours of FUN, not 10-15 hours of boredom. In addition you wouldn't be fighting level 2-5 content either. I'm not asking for the Atma to be easier or less time consuming. In fact I ask the opposite. I want it to be long. I want it to be hard.

I just want the whole thing to be fun. Now.. I ask again to everyone in the thread. Why can't it be fun?